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    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 11 2012,15:12)No, I believe that Psalm 86:8 refers to the one Corporate God which is the YHWH Echad, the eternal God unity.And why is that, Kathi?  Because of Deut 10:17, where the Father was called the God of gods and Lord of lords?Or perhaps because of your new favorite Aramaic Bible?Where can we read about this “God…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 10 2012,23:09)I kill and I make aliveJohn 11:25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies;John 6:57Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me.Kathi, what do you suppose Jesus meant…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 11 2012,00:14)what went wrong in your book ???:)

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Dec. 10 2012,15:41)Mike, Kathi will need to correct God next.Why not? She already corrects His holy servant Jesus all the time.It was Jesus who told us who to worship and serve as our God.It was Jesus who told us that our God was also his God.But Kathi feels she needs to correct her Lord on these points.

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (carmel @ Dec. 10 2012,10:30)Quote Jesus and I worship the same one God – the One in authority.Mike,There's only one in authority,and that is the only glorified visible true God, and Jesus christ.Matthew 28:18 And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth.Peace and love in JesusCharlesCharles,Who do…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (carmel @ Dec. 10 2012,09:52)Quote (MIKEBOLL @ 64) I don't know of any scripture that says Jesus was “involved in” creation.  I know that God, ALONE and BY HIMSELF, created all things THROUGH His holy servant Jesus Christ.Mike, Read,and define: Colosians 1:16 …………. all things were created by him and in him.John1:3  All things were m…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 09 2012,11:42)Mike, God was speaking in a metaphorical sense unless you can show us where Moses gave Aaron his words to say instead of God and where Aaron is calling Moses 'God' and worshipping him.Exodus 8:5And the LORD spake unto Moses, Say unto Aaron, Stretch forth thine hand with thy rod over the streams, over the…[Read more]

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    Kathi,Check out the last three words of Romans 5:12. Notice that the singular relative pronoun “that” is used with the plural “all” and the plural “sinned”.

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 08 2012,22:19)Why would He need a name before He was begotten?So then you ADMIT that Jesus was not eternally “YHWH the Son”?  :)  If he was “eternally the Son within the Father”, then why wouldn't he eternally have the name “YHWH the Son”?  Your made up doctrine is falling apart right before your eyes.Do you SERIOUSLY not fi…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 08 2012,22:35)No, Moses was not the god of Aaron. Moses was his brother. Aaron was not his prophet, he was God's prophet.Hmmm…………But Jehovah surely said he would make Moses a god to Aaron, and Aaron would be his prophet.Perhaps Jehovah just didn't know what He was talking about, huh? ???

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    No. The Father is the God of gods and the Lord of lords. HE is the Most High God.Jesus, on the other hand, is the Lord of lords and King of kings (not God of gods). He is not the Most High God, but the Son OF the Most High God.

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    Eph 6:5 actually says “kurios” – the same word used of Jesus in 1 Cor 8:6.jammin, I've grown WAY tired of your posts. It is like trying to discuss a serious scriptural matter with a little kid.You are correct that the Bible speaks of many gods. Only one of them is the God OF gods, and the MOST HIGH God though, right?Is Jesus that MOST HIGH God?…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 08 2012,21:57)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 08 2012,22:42)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 08 2012,21:33)So God did not create anything directly, is that what you are saying? Nope.Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 08 2012,21:33)So, why again is He a little 'g' God to you if He does big God things?What “big God things”?  Name a thing that Jesus…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 08 2012,21:33)So God did not create anything directly, is that what you are saying? Nope.Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 08 2012,21:33)So, why again is He a little 'g' God to you if He does big God things?What “big God things”?  Name a thing that Jesus himself initiated.Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 08 2012,21:33)Isn't Paul referring to…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 08 2012,19:59)Good post jammin!Really? It seemed like his usual tripe to me.Pick one of the “good points” from his post, and bring it up to me, Kathi. I don't mind discussing scriptural differences with you, because you are an adult who makes some valid points now and again.Unlike jammin, I value your input – even if I…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 08 2012,19:48)Mike,The one theos that is the mediator is a mediator between us and the one theos that is the Father.Now answer my question:Mike, is this mediator one of the two 'the theos' that was involved in creation, needed to be believed in for eternal salvation of all mankind, mentioned in our prayers, given praise,…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 08 2012,18:59)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 08 2012,15:42)1 Timothy 2:5For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,Kathi, in the above scripture, is Jesus:A.  The “one God” Paul mentions?B.  The mediator between us and that “one God”?Which one?Jesus is the mediator between us and God.Between u…[Read more]

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    I voted #1.  But then, I'm a creature of habit, and also don't have a clue about the things you mentioned in the OP.  :)I will defer to your judgment on the matter.  If you believe a new board will offer enough better features to make it worthwhile for the work you will have to do, then do it.But if you do it, I can't see how keeping this site fo…[Read more]

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    Quote (2besee @ Dec. 08 2012,15:01)'Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, AND THEY SHALL CALL HIS NAME EMMANUEL, which being interpreted is, GOD WITH US'Oops, what you gonna do now?His name was Jesus and in that name of Jesus we are saved.2B,FIRST, you didn't even attempt to address my post.SECONDLY, the Hebrew words…[Read more]

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    That was VERY well put, t8. I only hope Gene will read those words, and take them to heart.

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