Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 21 2013,13:04)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2013,21:38)2beeQuote e: 2)Who came from the Father?2besee: The eternal spirit son (the Holy Spirit) came from the Father. question is “WHO ”  NOT WHAT”T,That is why it is a leading question, assuming the one asking does not understand that certain literary practices change “what” to…[Read more]

Hi 2B,Thanks for answering the questions.Quote (2besee @ Jan. 21 2013,03:19)Mike: 1) Who was full of grace and truth?2besee: Jesus the man was full of grace and truthYet verses 14 and 16 speak of “the Word” being full of grace and truth, and verse 17 says it was “Jesus” who was full of grace and truth.  Perhaps the one called “the Word” actually…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 20 2013,21:59)I would not say or think 'It is God' because I know that God is 'God'.I need to work more on this.Ah, that's better.So now what? Are you ready to accept the scriptures that clearly call Jesus a god, while understanding that although he is a god (mighty one), he is the THE God, Jehovah?

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 20 2013,16:55)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)2B, is your Lord Jesus Christ a “false god”? YES or NO?NO. The Father and Jesus are one.And what does that mean? Do you believe that Jesus is God Almighty Himself?

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 20 2013,13:25)If it states # 1 then John is teaching us Jesus Christ is Emmanual.And do you believe that Christ is God Himself, dwelling among us? Do you really think that's what “emanuel” means – that God Himself came down from heaven and dwelled as a human being and was later killed by men?

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 20 2013,13:25)I looked at it more like math in that the Word + flesh = the Word + flesh………Kerwin,I truly have no idea what you're even trying to say.  Suffice to say that a plus sign in no way ever means “made”.  But just to entertain your notion:The Word Plus Flesh dwelled on earth.  (I'm assuming this is what yo…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 20 2013,17:56)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 21 2013,05:34)Gene,Do you believe Jesus is good?  YES or NO?Mike, lets let Jesus answer this for you OK.?Why callest thou me good for there is only one that is good and that is God. Okay Gene.John 10:11I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Jan. 20 2013,21:52)“Some believe that Jesus was resurrected in the flesh.This boggles my mind.”–WAKEUPDavid,Yet you now know, due to our scriptural discussion on the subject, that Jesus was indeed originally raised from the dead in the flesh, don't you?  

Quote (Marlin1 @ Jan. 21 2013,09:18)Who will see Jesus come in the Clouds?All eyes, Marlin.His coming is what will be like lightning that flashes in the east, but you can see it from the west.The “thief in the night” idiom refers to the fact that many here will not be expecting it when it happens. Many will be caught off guard. They will be…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 20 2013,16:13)I believe that the coming of Jesus will be quick and bright and there will be no need to wonder if it is the day of the Lord/return of Jesus or if it is not. It will be obvious.I agree. And that day, WHEN IT COMES, will be obvious to ALL who are living on earth at the time. The return of Jesus will be a ONE…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2013,17:04)Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.I wish Paul would have added these “disclaimers” in more of his writings. I'm sure he just figured that things like this were common sense to most people. App…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 21 2013,14:13)So then Jesus would be “equal to the Father” in “Omnipresence'?The claim that God is “omnipresent” is silly, if you ask me.  For God to be truly omnipresent, He must be all places at all times.  And if He were, then everything and everyone would be God.For example, if I am not God, yet I take up space i…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 21 2013,14:41)“……and the “EXACT REPRESENTATION OF HIS NATURE”………Heb 1:3Keith,The word “his”, that I've underlined and supersized, refers back to the subject “God” in verse 1.Surely our one and only “God” cannot possibly be a REPRESENTATION OF our one and only “God”.For someone to be a REPRESENTATION OF God,…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 21 2013,13:45)And all those who do not understand that Jesus has the same “EXACT” nature of the Father sees Jesus as less in nature than the Father.I see Jesus with a nature that is equal to his Father and God, Jehovah.  The nature of both of them is “spirit being”.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 21…[Read more]

It says “all authority”, Keith.  Not “all power”.  And yes, the God of Jesus GAVE His firstborn Son all kinds of authority.Keith, Jesus says that our God is also his God.  The God of Jesus is the Father alone.  Therefore, the God of us is also the Father alone.

2B and Wakeup:Good points on your last posts! Good use of SCRIPTURE to prove your points – as it should be done.

Here is the thread I just mentioned.  I've posted this link in this thread before, but as of yet, none of you guys want to go to that thread and put your money where your mouth is.This is a part of my last post on that thread, which discusses the claim that Psalm 82 is about judges of Israel:4.  Evangelicals try to explain these “gods” as human j…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 20 2013,00:53)Well at least we know Jesus only had one person he called a ” true” God, no matter how many false Gods Mike,Pierre and T8 have created.Gene,Do you believe Jesus is good? YES or NO?

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 20 2013,01:43)Mike, Kerwin answered it for me exactly as I thought before I went searching the Internet………..Hi 2B,I suggest you read my last post in the “Indeed there are many gods” thread.  Watch the video, and tell me if this guy is scripturally inaccurate.In fact, why don't we all take this part of the discussion to…[Read more]

Actually, Psalm 82 speaks of the “Divine Council” of God – the same ones who met with God in Job.God is speaking about how they were entrusted to rule over the various kingdoms of man, but did not do it in a way pleasing to their own God, Jehovah. Just look at verse 1, 2B:God stands in the assembly of the gods; in the midst of the gods he renders…[Read more]