Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 26 2013,01:10)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 26 2013,10:01)1 John 21 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 25 2013,22:42)And, according to Acts 13:13, which day was Jesus “beget, brought forth, or given birth to”?According to the wording of Acts 13:13,When He was “raised up””anastesas” “Having raised up Jesus”What do you say about that?You need to read verse 23 to find out what the promise from God was:23 “From this man’s des…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 24 2013,21:40)……..who is called by the Holy Spirit, now the Glory of the Lord, now the Son, again Wisdom, again an Angel, then God, and then Lord and Logos………To me that says Jesus is called these many things BY the Spirit, ie:  various people, speaking by the Holy Spirit, have called Jesus these various names.And if…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 25 2013,10:07)WakeupJude 1:25 to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen.The Savior is God through Jesus Christ our Lord.Wakeup,The point I was making was about the “before all ages” part of the verse. God could not have…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 25 2013,18:49)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 25 2013,15:13)So then “the Word”, who became flesh and dwelled on earth with the glory of God's only begotten, could not possibly have been the Holy Spirit, right?Mike,Kewin has answered this:Quote You do make the assumption that Jehovah cannot have one who is an only begotten Son in one…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 25 2013,14:33)Mike,I used logical reason and you have not pointed out a flaw in it.I posted a scripture that shot a hole right through it, Kerwin. But you ignored that hole, and started claiming that God can have two “ONLY begotten sons”. Hmmmm…….And then you seemed to make a claim that 1 John 4:10 is really referring to…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 25 2013,10:07)Acts 5:30The God of our fathers raised Jesus, whom you killed by hanging him on a tree.And WHO, exactly, was the “God of our fathers”, Kathi? Was it Jesus, who they killed by hanging on a tree? Or was the Father, who raised Jesus?My God is the God of the “fathers”, Kathi. My God is the one who raised Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 25 2013,03:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 25 2013,07:44)Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 24 2013,18:44)Notice Scripture calls the spirit of a man, man.The word “man” is genitive, Kerwin.  It is correctly translated into English as “of man”.  Or, more accurately, “who AMONG man” – as the NET and NIV translate it.Mike,Who among man?The one a…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 25 2013,03:53)You said to me that I did not answer your post on the scriptures that you presented. Mike, I have and I did…………I'm sorry. I didn't realize that 1 Cor 8:6 was the ONLY scripture in my questions. It seems to me I asked also about Col 1:16, Jude 1:25, and Hebrews 1:2.But like I said AFTER that post: Don't…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 25 2013,13:30)Many of the more reliable translations of Philippians 2:6-7 say the same thing, if the reader but understands them.Phil 2:6-7 speaks about how Jesus was existing in the form of his own God, ie: as a spirit being, and then emptied himself and was made in the likeness of a human being.

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 25 2013,11:08)Maybe even now,in my heart; the eyes we need to control.Thanks to Jesus who will blot out our sins.I sin daily. Thanks indeed, to the savior my God sent into the world.

Quote (jammin @ Jan. 24 2013,23:57)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 25 2013,13:01)Quote (jammin @ Jan. 24 2013,18:20)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 25 2013,10:21)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2013,21:06)Quote (jammin @ Jan. 20 2013,04:34) he cant be a servant of his own boy.And who is he a servant of?  Do you agree that when scripture says Jesus is a servant of…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 23 2013,22:28)who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body.So whatever species Jesus is, we are too.1 John 3:2Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when he…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 23 2013,22:16)You guys continue to blur the lines between God and his son.Amen.  Trinitarians have been doing this for centuries – sometimes with hilariously illogical results that make the rest of us roll our eyes in bewilderment.I mean, how could they take something so simple, and so clearly taught in scripture, and turn it…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 23 2013,12:57)Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 23 2013,12:32)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 26 2012,01:57)I agree with you William and I am glad that we agree together on the Nicene Creed and both understand the word 'catholic' as meaning universal and not Roman Catholic. I'm not sure, but I think that there are currently maybe four of us…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 23 2013,12:43)Quote So the dog(nature) Spot(identity) begets the dog(nature) Rover(identity).Is Rover less Dog than Spot? That is as easy as I can make it Mike. Can't help you see it more than that. Yes Keith, that is pretty easy to understand! Nice one!!I agree with you both that like begets like. It means that at one…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 23 2013,11:22)Mike Believes Jesus nature and the angels nature is the exact same as the Fathers nature because they are spirits.That's correct! God, Jesus, Satan, and all the spirit sons of God have the same nature: SPIRIT NATURE.But I believe Pierre was speaking about “good natured people” versus “bad natured…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 23 2013,02:27)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2013,21:40)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 21 2013,23:39)Of course the Son is not the Father!And who does scripture says is our only God?1 Cor 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father……..Paul says our one God IS the Father.Been down this road.If this scripture means…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 23 2013,02:57)Oh that's right like the JWs you believe Jesus is an angel like the seraphim or something.Well, Jesus IS a spirit messenger of his God, right?  What other qualifications does one need to be what we in English call an “angel”?Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 23 2013,02:57)Well Mike then you do not believe…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 23 2013,01:36)Sons of Kings, Presidents, and Prime Ministers is not a good example of the Father and the Only Begotten Son because we are talking about “nature and identity” You are stuck on identity. But on the other hand all of them have one thing in common; their “nature” is that of a man.Is “God” a title, like…[Read more]