Also Kerwin,I await your answer about 1 John 2:1-2. Who is the son of God that was the propitiation for our sins?

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2013,16:18)but scriptures are not saying CONCEIVED, AS IN THE REPRODUCTION OF A MAN AND A WOMEN CONCEIVING AN OFFSPRING ,THIS ONLY BELONG TO MALE AND FEMALE ,Good point, Pierre. Perhaps Kerwin doesn't mind being “inconsistent” when he speaks of the abnormality of Jesus having a human mother, but not a human father. Wha…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 26 2013,15:09)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 27 2013,01:08)Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 26 2013,12:18)Who are the two examples of children of Wisdom?Actually, it is thought that the original of Matthew 11:19 said, “Wisdom is vindicated by her DEEDS”.It says “children” in the parallel teaching of Luke 7:35, and it is thought that later…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 26 2013,15:05)Jehovah is not created and so his body does not consist of that which is created.Jehovah is “spirit”, right?  Are the angels also “spirit”, Kerwin?  That is a lame point……. actually, a non-point.Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 26 2013,15:05)Why do you choose to believe that which is created exists as the same kind as h…[Read more]

Were you going to address the valid points I made in my last post to you?

Psalm 82:1God standeth in the congregation of the mighty (gods); he judgeth among the gods.Ed, who are these gods that congregate with Jehovah?

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 25 2013,03:23)So if there was just God who is life, then where could he put creation that was not possibly within his view or understanding. Did God make a hiding place and put creation there?There is no place anyone can go to hide from God, t8.  But that doesn't mean God is everywhere all the time, right?It's getting harder and…[Read more]

So “the Holy Ghost” is the one who created all things? Not the Father, and not Jesus? Hmmmmm…………..The actual answer, as you well know, is in the first paragraph:I believe in one God,the Father Almighty,maker of heaven and earth,and of all things visible and invisible;How many Gods? And who is that God? And did He make the heaven, the…[Read more]

Eddy?

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 26 2013,13:19)EdJ.That is exactly what they were saying when Moses went up to the mountain. Where is Moses;he is not coming back,maybe he is dead,lets make us a god.Exactly what you are saying. Where is Jesus, it has been 2000yrs now;he is already come,lets make us another God. Our own doctrine,to fill up the gap,for they are…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 26 2013,09:14)EDj.Where are our kings and priests,and where is the new Jerusalem? Is it New  york? London? Paris?Have you received your reward ED? NOHave you been given a spirit body? NO.Were you called before Christ? NO.Have you seen the prophesies fulfilled? NO.Is babylon destroyed? NO.Has knowledge covered the earth as the…[Read more]

I'm just trying to understand, Ed. Some of what they're saying makes sense to me, and other parts don't seem to add up.Nor did Devo do a good job, IMO, of rebutting your understanding that the woman is Israel. For example, he said it couldn't be Israel, because Israel has never had to flee from Israel. But where is the scripture that says this…[Read more]

Not to mention, Marty: WHO received God up in glory?

Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 22 2013,01:00)And one more point to consider Ed, Israel did not give birth to Jesus……….Micah 52 “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah,out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel,whose origins are from of old, from ancient times.”

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 21 2013,22:08)You seem to understand that the woman is Gods teachings(doctrine).I understand that is what you are claiming.Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 21 2013,22:08)This was Gods woman taught to israel.So the righteous ways God tried to teach the Israelites were “God's woman”?Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 21 2013,22:08)Jesus born out of…[Read more]

“”Why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the angel of the LORD?  thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God”What if it said that, Ed?  Would you then:A.  Think the angel of the LORD actually WAS the LORD?B.  Understand that by lying to one of God's reps, you are in effect lying to the God he represents?Which one would you believe?I would bel…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 26 2013,05:13)How long we have to debate with the same clowns?False teachers love to gatecrash truth parties.That is one thing among others that I have learned here.Come help me in the “Beginning” thread, t8.  Kerwin is currently on a mission to prove that the Holy Spirit of God is the “only begotten Son of God” – because God,…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 26 2013,12:18)Who are the two examples of children of Wisdom?Actually, it is thought that the original of Matthew 11:19 said, “Wisdom is vindicated by her DEEDS”.It says “children” in the parallel teaching of Luke 7:35, and it is thought that later scribes changed “deeds” to “children” in Matthew, preferring the more animate…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 26 2013,10:08)I believe that the Spirit of God the Father was “IN” Jesus……..I think we all believe that, Gene. But which one of the two was the “only begotten Son of God”? The Spirit? Or Jesus?

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 26 2013,02:33)Luke 4 And Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan, and was led by the Spirit……If the Holy Spirit can be IN the only begotten Son of God, doesn't it prove that the Holy Spirit is NOT the only begotten Son of God?