That's what I've been saying here for three years, Gene. We need to show reverence to Jesus (bow before/do obeisance to). But worship belongs only to our God and Jesus' God……. the Father – just like Jesus himself told the devil.

Quote (jammin @ Jan. 27 2013,07:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 26 2013,13:40)Quote (jammin @ Jan. 24 2013,23:57)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 25 2013,13:01)Quote (jammin @ Jan. 24 2013,18:20)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 25 2013,10:21)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2013,21:06)Quote (jammin @ Jan. 20 2013,04:34) he cant be a servant of his own boy.And who is he a…[Read more]

Ed,I'm just basing my understanding on what is actually written. And I don't have to add the word “IN” to explain my understanding to others – like you do.

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 28 2013,17:10)Yes can we please all get back on topic, Thank you.Okie-dokey.  John 1:1 NWTIn beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.First, I will point out that the NWT is far from being the ONLY translation that renders 1:1 as “a god”.  There are hundreds of others ones.  More im…[Read more]

“Hidden in scripture”?  That's what the Trinitarians say about God being three in one.  

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 26 2013,18:57)Hi:We know that this scripture is in reference to Jesus Christ…………..Agreed, Marty. Kerwin is the first person I've ever heard claim something different. To me, it seems a no-brainer that the verse is about Christ.

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 24 2013,21:02)In ancient manuscripts 1 Timothy 3:16 had the word “os” which looks like: “OC” and means “he”. The nomina sacra of God looks like OC but it has a horizontal line through the middle of the O and a long horizontal line over both letters (as Abernathy, above, explained).The Greek translator continues, and I quote: “In o…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 27 2013,17:52)Hi Wakeup, Yes, that is the meaning of John 1:14!God (The Word) was truly manifest in the flesh………….John 1:14 says “the Word BECAME flesh”, Ed.  So unless you believe that God Almighty Himself BECAME flesh and was killed at the hand of puny humans, your understanding is flawed.  (We can't just go adding t…[Read more]

It seems this thread has gone WAY off topic.  We started off trying to figure out who “the Word” was in John 1.We were moving along just fine until we all realized that the Word is the one who actually dwelled on earth with the glory of God's only begotten Son.At that point, it seems the non-preexisters didn't want to discuss the similarities…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 27 2013,19:31)………the Holy Spirit (also known as the eternal spirit Son of God)……..Scripture, please?

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 27 2013,13:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 27 2013,09:37)Also Kerwin,I await your answer about 1 John 2:1-2.  Who is the son of God that was the propitiation for our sins?Mike,Offhand the only begotten Son can either bea] An animation of the Holy Spiritb] Jesus ChristKerwin,No matter how you translate the “genes” part of…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 27 2013,12:38)I choose to believe the Word of God, which declared Jesus was conceived in the inner parts of a virgin.I find it interesting that Kerwin has no problem with people being BORN again, but draws the line at being CONCEIVED again. On judgement day, make sure you explain to Jesus that his teaching to Nicodemus was…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 27 2013,00:52)T,I did my own research and there are manuscripts that do say deeds and certain deem them more reliable.Okay Kerwin.  You may disregard my other post to you on this subject.  (I usually answer posts chronologically, so I addressed your first post before reading the second one.)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 27 2013,00:39)Lk 1:15 ………he will be filled with the Holy Spirit even from birth.how can some one be filled by what he his ?It's really just that simple, isn't it Pierre?

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 27 2013,00:30)If Jesus' conception had been “consistent” with human norm it would not be the sign it is was performed to be, and neither would the line of Solomon been kept off the throne.So you're okay with Jesus being the ONLY human ever conceived by a human mother, but without a human father? And not only are you okay with…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 27 2013,00:19)T,Because it is rumor that you wish to hear. I have not even seen evidence that such a manuscript exists, much less that it is the original wording.From NETNotes:Most witnesses (B2 C D L Θ Ë1 33 Ï lat) have “children” (τέκνων, teknwn) here instead of “deeds” (ἔργων, ergwn), but since “children” is the reading o…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 27 2013,00:02)I would be a fool to follow something different than what has been shown to me. Where would it lead me? i tell you, nowhere!I sense a little hostility in that post, 2B. But that's okay. I'm used to it by now. It seems that when you show people actual scriptures that contradict the belief they're already comfora…[Read more]

Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 26 2013,22:16)This is what we are speaking of…His ORIGINS…heavenly.Okay. Got it.

Or it could easily be that God CAN choose to go anywhere He wants to go. If He is looking for you, there is nowhere you can hide from Him, because He can go anywhere you could go, and then some. Or He could just say, “Hey Michael and Gabriel, go find out where Pierre is hiding from me. I need to talk to him about something.” Even if God…[Read more]

And was it truly the Almighty Creator of the universe who was in that bush, Ed? Or are you able to understand that Moses was talking to God THROUGH one of His angels, who was in the bush?Also, address the “ear” part of my post. If you lied directly to God's ears, are you lying to God? YES or NO?And are the ears of God the being of God Almighty…[Read more]