Quote (2besee @ Feb. 01 2013,17:16)His (Holy Spirit/Word) eyes Jesus are like a flame of fire, and on his (Holy Spirit/Word) head Jesus are many diadems……..Hmmmm………….The Holy Spirit's eyes, which are in fact Jesus Christ, are like a flame of fire?The Holy Spirit's head, which is in fact Jesus Christ, has on it many diadems?So Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 01 2013,16:52)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 01 2013,13:23)To sum up:MY scripture-backed explanation of John 1:1 is accurate, and fits all the criteria. YOUR explanation remains this:1.  The Word actually IS God, therefore John, for some odd reason, was telling us, “In the beginning was God.  And God was with God.  And God was Go…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 01 2013,16:37)God is only one – not a combo of Gods but one, Mind and Spirit.Agreed.  The Almighty Creator of all things is one God – and not a combo of more than one.Quote (2besee @ Feb. 01 2013,16:37)The word “God” when used in any other way in scripture, would have to be a title IF you believe ALL of the Scriptures that…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 01 2013,03:11)Okay, back to the Word (Logos)… He who does not love me does not keep my word (logos); and the word (logos) which you hear is not mine but the Father’s who sent me.http://biblos.com/john/14-24.htmWhen anyone hears the word (logos) of the kingdom ….. http://biblos.com/matthew/13-19.htmWhy neither thought I m…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 31 2013,19:34)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 01 2013,06:55)Can you factually refute the possible translation of “a god” in John 1:1c?  YES or NO?Mike,Words allow many interpretations.So then, “NO”?

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 30 2013,15:34)Where is Jesus called a god in Revelations 19:11-15?I didn't say Jesus was called a god in the book of Revelation.  He is called “the Word of God” in chapter 19 of that book.  Do you agree?  YES or NO?Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 30 2013,15:34)John 17:5 infers Jesus had glory with Jehovah before God created the earth an…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 30 2013,16:17)Mike, there are many things that I never posted in that long post………..  but 'part two' will have to wait until I “get back”….Later!Okay 2B,But remember we are ONLY discussing verse 1 for now. I have offered my scriptural support that fits Jesus. You and Kerwin are now in the process of making a…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 30 2013,15:34)Horner translates John 1:16 as:”Because out of fulness we all of us took life and grace in place of grace.”He also renders John 1:26 as”I am baptizing you in water”Just so you know, the Coptic language uses the indefinite article far more than we do in English.  Many times, they will use it AS OPPOSED to the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 30 2013,15:34)And if this wasn't enough, let's see what G. Horner really wrote:Bohairic:In (the) beginning was the Word, and the Word was (imperf.) with God, and God (indef. art.) was the Word.Sahidic:In the beginning was being the word, and the word was being with God, and God was the word.As you can see, both of the…[Read more]

Okay, we've begun to discuss Heb 1 and Rev 19. I didn't notice any comments about Joh 17:5. Does that mean you accept it as I quoted it?

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 30 2013,14:13)unto however the Son, the throne of you, O God, to the ages (*aionos) of the ages (*aionos), and the scepter of righteousness the scepter of the kingdom of you. You did love righteousness and did hate lawlessness; because of this, anointed you God, the God of you, with the oil of exultation, above the companions…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 30 2013,14:27)Rev 19:11-16 Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! He (1.  who is the “HE” here?) who sat upon it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he (2.  and here?)color judges and makes war.His (3.  and here?) eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his (4.  and here?) head are many diadems; and…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 30 2013,14:13)…….God is light and in him is no darkness at all….if we walk in the light, as he (God) is in the light…..Okay 2B,We are talking ONLY about John 1:1 right now.  The reason I'm going one verse at a time is to AVOID oversized posts like the one you made.  Too much info in one post doesn't get anyone a…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 30 2013,14:13)That Spirit is no-one else's Spirit, it is God's Spirit. So also no one comprehends the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.Also called the Son…“No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.“So then the ones to whom the…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 30 2013,14:13)The Logos was a part of God just as your Word is a part of you.My word is not a part of me, 2B. My words are POSSESSIONS of me, hence the words “MY word”.Did you realize that what we commonly called “The Ten Commandments” are, in Hebrew, called “The Ten Words of God”?Now does God have TEN different words, which…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 30 2013,14:13)To say that there is only one God which is YHVH and to then apply that bible rule to the verse in John 1:1 is correct.Oops, let me stop you right there, 2B. The scriptures teach of MANY gods, one of which is Jesus Christ.Is what I've said above scripturally correct, or not?

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 30 2013,11:43)Mike,Angels and humans are both the created kind and their bodies are created by God.God does not have a created body and so even if he had a body it is not the same as the body of an angel.So only Jehovah exists in the uncreated “form” of God.Kerwin,That is just nonsense. Jehovah is a spirit being, complete…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 29 2013,23:42)There is only one Son of God mentioned and it is the Holy Spirit.2B,By definition, the word “son” implies a being who hasn't existed as long as his father. Yet you believe the Holy Spirit of God has been around as long as the Father has been around, right? How can that be? A father ALWAYS exists BEFORE his son…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 29 2013,23:33)Until then it was accepted by the church as canon, and they had no problem with this teaching. Why? Probably because it contradicts other scriptures.  For example:The holy, pre-existent Spirit, that created every creature, God made to dwell in flesh, which He chose. He assumed it as a partner with it.First,…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 29 2013,21:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 30 2013,05:45)Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 29 2013,16:15)Bad mushrooms are a corruption of Satan and so we petition God to deliver us from them.What?  Satan corrupted the earth's mushroom supply?   Hmmmm……………Kerwin, will you please address the third post down on page 111?Mike,There is a…[Read more]