LU: Jesus is different from all the gods you list…

Yep.  Jesus is different than Michael, just as Satan is different than Gabriel… and just as all four of them are different than their own God, Yahweh.

LU:  The names on your list aside from Jesus may be gods in a sense to someone yet they are no gods at all in an ultimate sense to Y…

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Proclaimer: At the end of the first day, God had already created the heavens and the earth. And his Spirit was hovering over a watery planet etc.

That concurs with the order I have been saying.

That God created the heavens and the earth first.

But you say no to that despite scripture and science saying otherwise.

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Proclaimer:  Let me help you out here. I quoted something from this topic. That usually means I am addressing that. Lol.

So then there ARE times when people sometimes copy something from one thread, and inadvertently paste it with their answer to the wrong thread?  I have done it.  Gene just did it a week ago.  And your use of the word “us…[Read more]

Btw Proclaimer, you attempted to answer a question that I never even asked Carmel.  My question to him concerned the fact that Yahweh Himself said that the creation of the heaven and earth mentioned in Gen 1:1 were INCLUDED in the six days of creation, not EXCLUDED as you guys claim with zero scriptural support.

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Proclaimer: He did it in 6 days. Not 6 x 24 hour days.

Berean:  Proclaimer

WHY NOT?

Excellent question.  I’ve already thoroughly debunked all of Proclaimer’s excuses and reasoning on this in the private thread.  For example…

1.  The very concept and the word “day” was created by God for the sole purposes of the earth and those who live here…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  God doesn’t sleep…

Did you mistakenly post this in the wrong thread?  Is it supposed to be the answer to my question on the private thread that you are bound by your own rules to answer before posting anything else on any other thread?

Mike:  I retract those two fake apologies, because I stand by my original conclusions.  You have the right to “expose” me by saying I don’t know your heart/intent, or that it wasn’t really spamming, or whatever else you’d like to claim in your defense.  But you will NEVER have the right to FORCE me into admitting I was in error when I don’t believ…

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Okay Gene, I’m going to DIRECTLY address and put to rest your two “go-to” verses that you think give you permission to just ignore hundreds of other scriptures.  And then afterwards, you DIRECTLY address the question that I end this post with, okay?

Gene:  But the bottom line is this you either believe it or not, remember, this is not me saying t…

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Carmel, I skimmed your two posts.  I didn’t easily recognize an actual answer/rebuttal/response to this…

Mike: Exodus 20:11… in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day

Exodus 31:17… in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested… 

In both of those ve…

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LU:  Nope, not stumped, I have verses waiting till you have acknowledged that you have been in error in the ways I pointed out to you.

Well, there will be no such “acknowledgement” of any alleged “errors”.  Your accusations are way off base.  As one example, if I believe you are spamming my thread with nonsensical crap that doesn’t belong th…[Read more]

Berean:  ALL OTHER GODS  are dependent on the goodwill of the One true Living God who gives life through HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON.
AMEN!

Amen!  Yahweh created His firstborn son, and then all other gods, the heaven and earth, and everything in them THROUGH that first-created son!

But the most important thing for this thread is that you are finally ac…[Read more]

Adam:  The bible is rife with references to deities other than Yahweh: The prophets didn’t deny these gods existed, they just didn’t think Jews should worship them.

And this is what it all boils down to.  Even Jesus didn’t deny these other gods existed.  He even accepted the Jews’ accusation that he was claiming to be one of these other gods -…[Read more]

Gene:  If you understood the proper meaning of what a God is, that is easy to conclude…

Psalm 8:4-5…  What is man that You are mindful of him, or the son of man that You care for him?

You made him a little lower than the gods, and crowned him with glory and honor.

Gene, King David said that Yahweh made man a little lower than the gods.  Wh…[Read more]

Mike: Berean?  Are you starting to understand about the many different gods of the Bible yet?

Berean:  Gods who are “short of breath”
the Pope also proclaims himself above all

Let’s try it again…

Psalm 8:4-5…  What is man that You are mindful of him, or the son of man that You care for him?

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LU:  Define real, actual gods. Do you mean gods by nature or gods not by nature yet supernatural and having some type of authority?

Real, Actual, God:  A very powerful supernatural being of a spirit nature (as opposed to flesh and blood nature).  These beings are much more powerful than human beings.  In scripture they are called “gods”, “sons of…[Read more]

You are right, Adam.  That is almost word for word how I have described it myself.  Well done. 👍

Kathi says the “us” in Genesis 1:26 is Yahweh talking to Yahweh.  I pressed her for which one of the two Yahwehs were doing the speaking, and how she knew.

She says she “believes” that the speaker is the Father, and that “Yahweh the Son” is the one who did the actual creation of mankind.

So I showed her this verse (among others)…

Deuteronomy…[Read more]

Kathi believes that any time “Yahweh” says or does something in the scripture, we must pick and choose which one of the two Yahwehs are saying or doing that thing.  She says that this is common throughout the Bible, and we always have to use discernment and ask for guidance from the Holy Spirit to know who is speaking or acting.

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Kathi believes that any time “Yahweh” says or does something in the scripture, we much pick and choose which one of the two Yahwehs are saying or doing that thing.  She says that this is common throughout the Bible, and we always have to use discernment and ask for guidance from the Holy Spirit to know who is speaking or acting.

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Nope.  I’ve already jumped through enough hoops and feigned enough apologies for things that YOU did wrong.  For someone who wants to promote her doctrine so much that she spams every other thread with it, you sure don’t seem very anxious to start actually discussing it in the thread that YOU created for that very purpose.  I wonder why. 🤔

I su…[Read more]