Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 12 2013,16:15)No creature is good without God is a paraphrase of only God is good.So then creatures WITH God CAN BE “good”, making the statement “only God is good” an EMPHATICAL statement instead of a LITERAL one – like I've been saying this whole time.Kerwin, do you go out of your way just to NOT agree with me? You know what…[Read more]

So far, we've learned that the following things cannot be scripturally refuted:1.  John 1:1c can be faithfully translated as “and the Word was a god”.  (Many expert Greek scholars)2.  Jesus is called a god in scripture.  (Is 9:6, Heb 1:8-9, etc.)3.  Jesus was with God before the world began.  (John 17:5)4.  All things were said to have been made t…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 12 2013,14:29)Because that Spirit is Jehovah's only he is good………. and anyone else that is good is good only because……What do you mean by “anyone else who is good”?  Didn't you just say “only God is good”?This is what I was trying to tell you before, Kerwin.  If you say, Jesus is good BECAUSE OF God's Spirit, you a…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 12 2013,09:48)Mike,The Holy Spirit of God PRODUCES Sons of GOD……….Are those SONS the very God whose Spirit produced them?

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 12 2013,00:37)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 12 2013,12:16)Mike and all,I believe God cannot be tempted by evil because his spirit is the only source of Love, similar to how a lake is the source of water.  There is no other source of Love and his Love is greater than creation.  In this way God is Love.KGod can not be t…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 11 2013,16:55)Yes. The Father is God. (what do you mean by “part b” though?)John 1:1 is broken up into:Part a – In the beginning was the Word.Part b – And the Word was with God.Part c – And the Word was ……………So since you agree with the rest of the world that the “God” in part b is the Father, your interpretation…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 11 2013,16:55)Logos means divine speech.The Greek word “logos” means “word” – and nothing more.We can call the Bible the written “word” of God. And in that case, we could imply that this particular “word” is divine. But the English word “word” doesn't actually MEAN “divine word”.Neither does the Greek word “logos”. It…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 11 2013,16:55)Quote 2.  Is eternal life knowing God and “Jesus Christ, whom He sent”?  Or is it knowing God and “the Holy Spirit, whom He sent”?  Which one, please – according to the words of the scripture?God and the Holy Spirit are one, just as your spirit and your mind are one. Jesus Christ is the anointed messiah/savior of…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 11 2013,16:55)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)1. Who does the scripture say prayed these things? Jesus? Or “the Holy Spirit speaking through Jesus”?The Holy Spirit and Jesus were as if one (think Elijah and john the Baptist).So then the Holy Spirit OF God, who is also the Son OF God, and at the same time God HIMSELF, prayed to…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 11 2013,17:04)Hi Mike,You said,Quote (Unless you believe that God the Father actually IS His own “Holy Spirit Son”.)Add it up.Spirit gives birth to spirit (John 3:6)God is spirit, the Holy Spirit is spirit.But you say the Holy Spirit IS God.  Did God “give birth” to Himself?   You can't say the Holy Spirit is the SON OF God, a…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 11 2013,16:48)Ofcourse he had to grow up,be babtised ,teach crucified died and caught up. It was not a child that was caught up.Hope you can se it more clearly now.You're just saying out loud what I've already concluded, ie:  If the child was Jesus when he was born on earth, then obviously, the child was not immediately…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ Feb. 11 2013,16:39)I think the Spirit of Christ ( New Jerusalem) is the guarantee of our future inheritance. Holy Jerusalem. (Spirit of God).And do you think this New Jerusalem is the woman?

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 11 2013,15:22)Jesus sent his son into the world.He did?  That's a new one on me!   Quote (t8 @ Feb. 11 2013,15:22)This case you make was closed months or years ago Kathi.With this, I agree.  In fact, an actual “case” was never opened.  This whole thing with Kathi has resulted solely from her just claiming things – without any scr…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 11 2013,16:16)She gave birth to A MAN CHILD. not metaphorical.He is real child,flesh and blood.Revelation 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.So your understanding is:And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 11 2013,14:14)Hi Mike.Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 11 2013,12:14)So far, we've learned that the following things cannot be scripturally refuted:Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 11 2013,12:14)1.  John 1:1c can be faithfully translated as “and the Word was a god”.  (Many expert Greek scholars)But the spirit of truth tells us if we are l…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 11 2013,08:46)I noticed you did not commit on my complete post Reguarding Hebrews, but just piece milled it , why is that Mike.Really Gene? How many times have I told you that if you make a big post, I will skim it, and cherry pick the one thing I WANT to respond to?If there are particular points you made in that post…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 11 2013,03:19)Am I allowed to say “I don't know for sure yet”Absolutely.  I prefer that to nonsensical mishmash designed to cover one's ass about something they posted, that they now realize is unscriptural or inaccurate.  Quote (2besee @ Feb. 11 2013,03:19) (That must have taken you a while to find) About 32 seconds, a…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 11 2013,14:31)Here we see a reference to YHVH using “Ab”, now what do you have to say?Ed, from the 2nd post on page 10:Quote (t8 @ Feb. 10 2013,21:16)Okay, I don't know if God the Father is ever called Ab.And is there a real difference between Abba and Ab?

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 11 2013,14:34)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 12 2013,07:26)Ed,Look at these last three definitions of “ab”……..7) of benevolence and protection (fig.)8) term of respect and honour9) ruler or chief (spec.)Any one of those three would fit Jesus.  7)  “Everlasting protector”.  8)  “Everlasting deserver of our respect”.  9)  “Ev…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 10 2013,21:00)So where in scriptures does it speak of the Son being conceived before creation? I mean, since all sons are conceived, right?Kathi,You can't ask us to prove a negative.  I've just explained this to jammin in the “Word” thread.You can't say, “Well, the Bible doesn't say this DIDN'T happen, so therefore it…[Read more]