Quote (jammin @ Feb. 16 2013,19:04)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 16 2013,15:53)So then, even though the words “Satan is not the God of Abraham” are nowhere to be found in the scriptures, we can still KNOW that he is not the God of Abraham from the scripture you quoted, because it lists Satan as someone OTHER THAN the God of Abraham, right?the bible…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 18 2013,09:01)Mike……….I agree with what Jesus said there is “ONLY ONE” that is Good, and that is God . Mike we  go to what is God to become Good………..We can't possibly even BECOME “good” if God is LITERALLY the ONLY “good” one.Gene, do you think your Lord Jesus Christ is “good”?  Or do you think like K…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 17 2013,11:57)Gene,Quote Mike is trying to make his case that Jesus was a God and therefore advancing there theory that the Words in John 1:1 is speaking of a “little” god (Jesus) can be a acceptable teaching. IMO That is what you should write to Mike.It's funny to read those words from Gene, because I came SO CLOSE to saying…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 17 2013,11:52)Mike,When Jesus states that no one but Jehovah is good he is not saying that no one is good compared to Jehovah but he is saying that God is our goodness.Kerwin, I'm going to have to pull a “jammin” on you here:  Don't explain, boy.  The words are “only God is good”……….. PERIOD!  Don't go writing your ow…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 17 2013,09:43) ……if there are no other “TRUE” God;s , then Mike should understand all other so-called Gods are “FALSE” God's .Okay Gene.  We are getting to the place I wanted to take you.  It is a fact of scripture that Jesus is called by the title “god”.  So are you claiming that your Lord and Savior is a FALSE go…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 17 2013,01:58)Mike,All of these verses can be understood IF you understand the Son to be the (eternal) Holy Spirit, with the Son Jesus.Hi 2B, Like I asked Kerwin, please let me finish all the verses with my “Jesus” comparisons.THEN, we will go down those same verses trying to use “God Himself” and “The Holy Spirit Son” – to…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 16 2013,16:53)Mike, perhaps it is that Gene and Ed etc, believe as scriptures state that there is only one God (TO US) despite what other may say, much like if we were to argue that there are many  Jesus' (those with that name) but to us, there is only one who is JESUS, and if people would argue that, no, there are many…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 17 2013,00:11)It seems reasonable that being in the flesh is the same as being in the body and that is speaking of a person's soul that is in the tent of their body.If you are talking about a FLESH body here, then I agree with you.So then, “Jesus has come in the flesh” means, “Jesus has come in a flesh body”, right?According…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 16 2013,15:33)2besee, honesty like that is appreciated.I agree t8. Unfortunately, in my experience here, those words mean that 2B won't answer until he's had time to find some internet writing that agrees with his pre-conceived understanding.I hope this is not the case.

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 16 2013,15:06)Mike I cannot answer your question on page one yet (the OP) as I do not know the answer myself.Okay 2B.Kerwin, how about you? Are you ready to DIRECTLY address the 2 questions at the top of page 3?

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 16 2013,12:26)Since Jesus comes in the flesh he was not made into flesh, as that is contradictory………..In what world are those two things “contradictory”?Jesus BECAME flesh……….Jesus WAS MADE flesh…………Jesus has COME IN THE flesh…….They are all saying the same, exact thing, Kerwin.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 16 2013,08:24)Mike…..1…If i said Jesus came from Mary his mother would you bleiieve that? Yes or No  Please.           2…If i said his linage is listed in scriptures would you believe that? Yes or No . Please           3…If is said scripture tells us Moses and the Prophets know where he would come from would…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 16 2013,07:30)Mike………..WE know Jesus “the Christ” did come into existence as a “FLESH”  being just as we did through a berth process from a mother.So then you think “has come in the flesh” is just an odd way of saying, “was born human just like everyone else”?  Please answer this question with a YES or a NO, G…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 14 2013,22:14)John 17:8 for the words which You gave Me I have given to them; and they received them and truly understood that I came forth from You, and they believed that You sent Me.The words bolded are Strong's #1831.Luke 5:8 When Simon Peter saw this, he fell at Jesus’ knees and said, “Go away from me, Lord; I am a sin…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 14 2013,21:09)Mike,You have already been kicked out of Christian message boards, haven't you? What does that tell you?It tells me that Trinitarians are AFRAID to have someone in their midst telling the TRUTH of the scriptures.  They must immediately banish those people, before the truth becomes accepted by their blind…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 14 2013,21:07)The thing about that is, you would have been the one put to flight!Ah, but after the Nicene Creed, the people momentarily came back to their senses, and banished ATHENASIUS for a long time. Arius was back in, and Athenasius was put to flight.Satan didn't stand long for that, though…. and soon things were…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 16 2013,16:01)I asked Ed J, if he was Elijah or Jon B, and he has stopped posting in those threads. But he is doing the odd sneaky post elsewhere, so he is still active.Don't you hate that?  After much time and effort, you finally get the other guy cornered by the difference between what HE was saying, and what the SCRIPTURES…[Read more]

Oh Eeeeddddddyyyyyy………………. ?

So far, we've learned that the following things cannot be scripturally refuted:1.  John 1:1c can be faithfully translated as “and the Word was a god”.  (Many expert Greek scholars, plus the simple FACT that it CAN be translated that way.)2.  And the Word was a god:  (Is 9:6, Heb 1:8-9, etc.)3.  He was with God in the beginning:  (John 17:5)4.  A…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 16 2013,12:47)Gene, Ed and others answer that impression emotionally by quoting Jehovah where he states he is the only GOD.  You respond by pointing out that scripture speaks of many gods that are on earth and in heaven.  How do you advance the conversation by clearing up the misunderstanding?I'm WORKING ON IT, Kerwin.  Why do…[Read more]