Quote (2besee @ Feb. 23 2013,16:33)Hi Mike, Seeing that you like to do “word studies” from the Greek, then study this:'There is one God. There is also one mediator between God and human beings—a human, the Messiah Jesus.'or as some versions would have it:'There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.'Does the v…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 23 2013,15:22)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2013,10:15)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 23 2013,10:22)Now you come up with this garbage we never Produced ONE.Don't get confused, Gene.I'm asking for a published statement from anywhere and any time in the history of the world, where someone has used the phrase, “has come in the flesh”…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,15:17)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 23 2013,15:59)Quote None of you has yet to produce one.Is this true. Why is that? At least give an explanation as to why others are never mentioned as coming in the flesh. If you cannot, then at least look into your own heart and mind and ask why.T8,Did you look up “in the flesh”?You really do…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 23 2013,15:08)So from the above we can see that:Jesus is the Lord.The Lord is the Spirit.The Spirit is the Holy Spirit.The Spirit is the one who knows the deep things of God.The Spirit is not some other God, but is God's own Spirit.So then the teaching is that GOD knows the things of GOD? How profound.

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,14:48)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2013,01:41)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 21 2013,18:36)Hebrews 2:14King James Version (KJV)14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 23 2013,14:35)The JWs today make the same claim (that Jesus was risen as a spirit being that APPEARED to be flesh only.)Is this what Mike believes?Mike, is this what you believe?No, I don't agree with the JWs, who believe Jesus was raised immediately from the dead as a spirit being. Luke 24:39 proves this not to be the case.I…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,14:33)Mike,He is calling Jesus “one”and then stating he is:The human that comes after himThe human that surpassed himThe human that was before him.Correct on all counts. What point are you trying to make with this?

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,14:25)Mike,Even if you ignore the contradictions and answer yes to all four you are supporting the claim that “made flesh” is equivalent to “in the flesh”.   A claim you previously found odious.What I find odious is your attempt to ADD the word “IN” into 1:14.“The Word BECAME flesh” refers to a being who was with God…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,14:24)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2013,01:50)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 21 2013,22:59)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 22 2013,06:06)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 21 2013,14:00)T8,If Jesus came in the flesh then he did not transform to flesh.The spirit being Jesus Christ was transformed by God into the flesh being Jesus Christ.That being the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 23 2013,10:22)Now you come up with this garbage we never Produced ONE.Don't get confused, Gene.I'm asking for a published statement from anywhere and any time in the history of the world, where someone has used the phrase, “has come in the flesh” to convey the thought that the person was just a normal human being like…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 22 2013,13:13)T,Quote Jn 1:30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’“A man”, not an angel.And? No one here denies that Jesus was, at that time, a man.

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 22 2013,13:10)T,Quote Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.I have not looked at the Greek behind these words but this version does noes not support the claim that Jesus was the first created by Jehovah.  “over” gives the contextThe Greek words are “pasa ktisis” – in the genitive form.…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 22 2013,09:09)It had to be a EXACT and IDENTICALLY same Being as all HUMAN BEINGS are, Subject to the EXACT Same pulls of the flesh and influences of sin as we are, in order to be a TRUE SACRIFICE for sinsGene,Your point fails immediately because no other human being was born of woman – WITHOUT the input of a human man.…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 21 2013,22:59)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 22 2013,06:06)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 21 2013,14:00)T8,If Jesus came in the flesh then he did not transform to flesh.The spirit being Jesus Christ was transformed by God into the flesh being Jesus Christ.That being the case, we can say Jesus BECAME flesh.  We can say Jesus WAS MADE flesh.…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 21 2013,18:36)Hebrews 2:14King James Version (KJV)14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;The scripture you posted compliments the OP scripture I started the thread…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 21 2013,18:23)How do you not know that Jesus “coming in the flesh” does not mean as a man who was able to sin, but did not?Well, we know from tons of other scriptures that speak of the pre-existence of Christ.And we can also have a pretty good guess just from the words, “has come in the flesh”.Is that said about anyone else in…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 21 2013,18:18)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 22 2013,11:12)Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 21 2013,16:20)Hi Mike,Jesus preexisted as God.Hello Eddy,1.  Do you believe Jesus was God Almighty when he dwelled on earth?2.  Do you believe Jesus is God Almighty right now?Hi Mike,1) No2) NoGod blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgSo t…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 22 2013,10:06)1….> that Jesus was a God2….> that Jesus preexisted his berth on this earth.3…..> that Jesus did not come into his existence as a born human being. These  constitutes what John described as Antichrist.Hmmmm………….I believe all three of those things, Gene, so maybe I'm a Gnostic.But I'm not…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 22 2013,18:59)and so any other called god would not be the ALMIGHTY GOD but be lower ,right so simple ,elementary (WATSON)Touche'

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 22 2013,13:45)Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 22 2013,19:52)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 22 2013,11:13)If you do then you communicate it poorly.k or you are deaf,and blind T,”EMPHATICALLY” is an erroneous belief as it makes more than one god creators.  That's not even close to being true, Kerwin.  The fact that there ARE scripturally MANY e…[Read more]