Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 24 2013,09:03)Gene,You welcomed me as if I was a Legislator of the U.S., as if I was President Obama himself.  Perfect example, Kerwin.  Thanks!  Naturally, for the comparison to work, the individual mentioned would HAVE TO BE a part of the group mentioned.For example, you wouldn't say, You welcomed me as if I was a Le…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Feb. 21 2013,19:54)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 22 2013,12:24)Quote (jammin @ Feb. 21 2013,10:26)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 15 2013,09:51)jammin, are the words “Jesus Christ” in the Greek mss of that verse TWICE – like the GW implies?  YES or NO?you call it alteration bec it does not support your imagination.I call it an alteration…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Feb. 23 2013,00:10)22 All things( SO HE IS NOT A SON ONLY LIKE YOU AND ME!!!)are delivered to me by my Father; and no one knoweth who the Son is,but the Father;Romans 8:32He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things?John 14:7If you really knew m…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 21 2013,21:42)Mike,A child exists before they are begotten/born. A begettal does not indicate a beginning of existence.Kathi, I mentioned before that surely God would have known how we humans would understand the words “son”, “father”, “begotten”, and “firstborn”……. and also what those words implied.These following…[Read more]

jammin, do you agree with me that ONLY the MOST HIGH God should get the capital “G”? YES or NO?

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,23:50)Instead John 17:5 is Jesus asking for his glory that he had with Jehovah before the World began.That's right, Kerwin. And if you ask for something you ALREADY HAD, then you are OBVIOUSLY asking for the RETURN of that something.This really isn't rocket science.

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 23 2013,20:58)Neither you or T can answer me.One verse to show us simply and in plain English that Jesus was an Angel or a god.First, you haven't asked ME the question, so how can you say I haven't answered?Second, I have already showed you the scriptures that call Jesus a god, and you have already agreed that he is called…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 23 2013,20:52)If Jesus was half god and half man or an Angel, then how could He have overcome and why does it it say in Revelations “Weep not for behold – the Lion form the tribe of Judah He has overcome.”Overcome what exactly if He was half god half man?Do you guys ever actually listen to what we DO say? I have never claimed…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 23 2013,20:46)No mIke,Jesus is the only one who existed who was perfect. He overcome and He is the firstborn from the dead and the firstborn of/over all of creation.So you're saying that John's words, “has come in the flesh”, have to do with Jesus being perfect and overcoming? Hmmmm……..

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 23 2013,19:00)Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 24 2013,13:48)I CAN TELL YOU NOW THAT YOU HAVE NOT GIVEN ME ONE SINGLE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS THAT CHRIST OR THE SON OF GOD HIS THE HOLY SPIRIT T,SHOW ME ONE SINGLE VERSE THAT PROVES THAT JESUS WAS AN ANGEL OR A gOD2B,Is that question to Pierre your way of acknowledging you HAVEN'T given him…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 23 2013,17:56)Mike, WHY?As if there were other people who had been like Jesus?Gene, are you hearing this?    2B is implying that there AREN'T any other people “EXACTLY” and “IDENTICALLY” like Jesus.  What do YOU think?  Quote (2besee @ Feb. 23 2013,17:56)I do not see what your point is Mike with this.You've already con…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 23 2013,17:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2013,11:57)Quote (2besee @ Feb. 23 2013,15:08)So from the above we can see that:Jesus is the Lord.The Lord is the Spirit.The Spirit is the Holy Spirit.The Spirit is the one who knows the deep things of God.The Spirit is not some other God, but is God's own Spirit.So then the teaching…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 23 2013,17:34)Mike………According to your own words , “BORN” did not include Adam as you say, But the Rest of Us , Because of the word “BORN”, So why does that change with Jesus seeing scriptures say he is First “BORN” of all Creation.Gene,As usual, I don't even have a clue what you're saying.At the beginning of…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 23 2013,09:11)I can understand how a word can come to be “IN “Flesh but actually be “MADE” Flesh No way……………So what you're saying is that because you personally can't understand 1:14 AS IT WAS WRITTEN, it is okay to ALTER the words of scripture to conform them into a teaching that you personally CAN…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 23 2013,09:11)Mike………. If you believe all three of those thing i wrote, you are no different then a Gnostic, because you have bought into their teachings that corrupted the truth about Jesus.Gene, I don't know anything about Gnostics.  BUT……. if the three things you listed in that other post are what the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,01:36)Mike,I believe what you say is untrue because I know that all other gods are gods only in their likeness to Jehovah while he is god because he is god.Jehovah is the first and the last, the a and the z. There is no God but him.Okay Kerwin,Let's re-write your statement WITHOUT capital letters, and using the word…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 23 2013,03:50)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 23 2013,12:24)Jesus is the son of God who is over all and in all.That God works primarily through his son.I made a mistake here. I intended to say 'Jesus is the son of THE God who is over all and in all.That God works primarily through his son.'.I missed out the definite article in my sentence.And we…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 22 2013,21:31)Mike,You lean on what you call 'common sense' continually. What you seem to lack is God's wisdom.First, are you claiming that YOU have “God's wisdom”?   Secondly, didn't you put the apostrophe in the wrong place?  Where you put it implies that there is only ONE Almighty God.  Here, let me fix it so it is in li…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 23 2013,13:14)Those who deny this yet acknowledge that Jesus is called the theos in scripture…………….Why are you addding the word “THE” before “theos”?  Didn't you just get done saying that your theology is not based on that word?Wouldn't it be more accurate to say Jesus is called theos – like many other beings in…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 23 2013,16:36)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2013,11:16)You guys keep talking about Gnostics as if it is a cuss word, and claiming that it was they to whom John referred in 1 John 4:2-3.But it is obvious from what Gene said about the Gnostics that they DID believe Jesus “has come in the flesh”, right?  So how then could they be…[Read more]