Yeah, we can all find specks to “prove” just about anything we want in scripture. Most of the nonsensical doctrines being taught today require people to ignore the planks while focusing only on a few, twisted specks.

Quote (carmel @ April 07 2013,10:27)Mike,Unless you are  blind, you would accept these:Hebrews 1:11 They shall perish,( die) but thou shalt continue: (living.)Charles,I don't believe Heb 1:10-12 to be about Jesus, because he is often in scripture distinguished as someone other than the One who created all things. But instead of getting into that…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ April 07 2013,10:09)Mike,WHO IS THIS ALMIGHTY, THE ONLY TRUE GOD THE FATHER THEN,YOU'VE BEEN SHOUTING SINCE HE IS USELESS ON IS OWN.Jehovah God Almighty, the Father and Creator of all living things, is not “useless on His own”, Charles. I can't even believe you would utter those words.God often uses mediators. Sometimes He sends…[Read more]

jammin,Answer the question, if you dare. Do you believe that the Father ALONE is the God of Jesus? YES or NO?(Don't bother posting anything to me until you post a “Yes” or “No” answer to that very simple question.)

Quote (Lightenup @ April 07 2013,19:33)Good post Mike.

Quote (abe @ April 08 2013,11:00)16For verily not of angels doth he take hold, but he taketh hold of the      SEED    of Abraham.Hebrews 2:16 NRSV ©For it is clear that he did not come to help angels, but the descendants of Abraham.

Quote (abe @ April 07 2013,16:32)Hi Mike,Gal.3:26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.Hi Abe,We were not discussing children of God, but children of Christ.peace

Quote (Lightenup @ April 07 2013,19:23)Mike,Is it not correct to say that the dog is a dog? or the tree is also a tree? or, the God is also a God? Too much is being made of the 'article' or lack thereof.True Kathi,”THE dog” is also “A dog”.  “A dog” can be with “THE dog”, but “THE dog” cannot be with “THE dog”.  Imagine a couple took their dog t…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 07 2013,19:00)The First Root begat that from which was eternally within Him to be the Second Root and then creation was created. Then came Jesse………Yeah, but you believe it was that second Root who created everything, including Jesse, right?So you are still saying that “Jesus the Root” was the creator/father of “Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 06 2013,23:13)Thus all I am saying is that you can eliminate some confrontation immediately by teaching the intended meaning.And we apparently disagree about the “intended meaning”. (Where is David? He's always trying hard to find things about which the “Three Amigos” disagree, right? )In your mind, Jesus was saying “one of…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 07 2013,18:26)Regarding t8's use of 'specks' and 'planks,' I believe is a most confusing comparison. The true understanding of the scripture is all as valuable and weighty whether a seemingly small fact or a large fact. They all work together and cannot be added to or subtracted from.Perhaps this will help demonstrate t8's…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 07 2013,18:26)I believe that the 'angel of YHWH' here is the Word…the Lord of lords…YHVH, the Word.My bad.  I see you did address one of my points.  (I usually address the posts AS I'm reading them in chronological order – and so I answered before seeing this later post of yours.)Okay, so you think this “Angel OF Y…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 07 2013,18:15)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 04 2013,18:53)1.  The OT also makes it seem as if Moses was talking to YHWH Himself in the burning bush……. but we know that it was an angel of God – even though Moses addressed that angel as “God”.2.  The OT makes it seem as if Jacob wrestled with God Himself, but we find out l…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 07 2013,18:09)jb2u,You say that the Bible doesn't suggest that Jehovah is a unity? Oh really?Deut 10:17For Jehovah your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who is not partial and takes no bribe.And?  The ONE person, Jehovah, is truly a God over other gods, and a Lord over…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 07 2013,18:03)2 Cor 13:14May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.Kathi, in the scripture you posted, WHO IS “GOD”?  And is Jesus distinguished as someone OTHER THAN “God” in that verse?  YES or NO?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 08 2013,10:59)Terricca……….Wrong those so-called God of the People were no Gods at all they were the “IMAGANATIONS” of their minds, they simply did not truly exist.Jehovah called Satan a god, Gene. Does Satan exist?Jehovah is also the God OF gods, right? Who are some of those other gods that Jehovah is the God OF…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 07 2013,17:05)You try to use scriptures like where Jesus said you are God's (meaning God's “POSSESSIONS”)  as if they themselves were Gods NOW IS THE CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU MIKE? Not clear yet, Gene. First you must boldly declare these words:Jehovah is LITERALLY the ONLY elohim/theos who has ever existed – according to…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 06 2013,19:33)Quote (terraricca @ April 07 2013,05:20)Kif what you say believed, then all the prophets that spoke to men from the received words from God “THE WORD MADE FLESH”T,Jeremiah 31:33After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 06 2013,16:31)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 06 2013,14:17)That's funny, Kerwin.  I just pasted your first sentence into that site, and your sentence received a 67 out of 100.  The notes were “weak, needs revision”.Mike,grammarly.com does not like passive “was made”.  “Grammarly doesn't like…………” isn't exactly what you im…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ April 06 2013,04:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 06 2013,18:17)In John 10:35, Jesus says, “scripture cannot be broken”.  What do you suppose he meant by those words?Mike, it looks to me as if Jesus is using their own argument against them because he uses the phrase ” your law” 34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law…[Read more]