Quote (kerwin @ April 10 2013,19:59)If you are speaking about the Word then then answer is yes.  If you are speaking of that which is not the Word then the answer is no.I'm speaking about ME, when I someday become another “Word-Made-Flesh” like Jesus.  Will it then be said about ME that all things in heaven and earth were created through ME?BTW, w…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 11 2013,10:47)Satan is “called a God of this world” because that is who men serve , it has nothing to do with ha-satan, being a “REAL” god of any kind.Hmm…………  I must have missed the part where Paul called Satan the “false” god of this age.  Please point that out for me in the scripture, okay?And what about J…[Read more]

Let's go through the entire NT, removing the added indefinite articles, okay Kerwin?  Here's the first one:Matthew 1:20 When he had contemplated this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream……..Let's change that to, When he had contemplated this, angel of the Lord appeared to him in dream….Does that work for you?

Kerwin,Do you think there came man who was sent by God makes sense to English speaking people?

Quote (carmel @ April 11 2013,12:53)God wanted to function as a triune God………No Charles. God is one. He (not “THEY”) has a Son named Jesus who He sent into the world as His sacrificial Lamb.And just like you and your son are not the same being, neither is God and His Son.

Quote (carmel @ April 11 2013,00:25)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)Unless you can show me CLEAR wording in Hebrews 1 that says Jesus died a different kind of death than the rest of us, I suggest we move on to your next “proof text”.Mike,The chemist sells only what he has in stock:If none of the things he has in stock work like they're supposed to, why would…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ April 10 2013,21:15)of course jesus is not God the father.you must also know that there is God the only son.That adds up to TWO Gods, jammin. I believe in ONE Almighty God.

Quote (kerwin @ April 11 2013,18:26)……the writer would have written “”the Word was the god” if he wanted to make it clear that the Word was “the god”.Read up on “Colwell's Rule”.

Kerwin,The word “tis” is an “enclitic indefinite pronoun” – according to Strong's.  This is in line with the info you posted.  It is not the indefinite article “a”, which is probably why the NET Bible doesn't translate it as “a” one single time – out of the 448 times they translate it.Here is the list of how they translate “tis”:some 91, anyone 8…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ April 11 2013,17:36)I do wish you guys would come over to the prophecy section.I read some of it. I just don't know enough to put my two cents in yet. And there are so many people saying so many different things, and using so many scriptures as support that I get lost in it all.

Quote (t8 @ April 11 2013,03:44)…….if Satan is the God of this world, then yes he is a god as well to an English speaker at least.Are you implying that John the Baptist is not “a man” unless there is a scripture somewhere that calls him “the man”? And Gabriel cannot be “an angel” unless some scripture identifies him as “the angel”?That makes…[Read more]

Why then did you post this scripture to me in the middle of a discussion about whether or not Jesus has children?Tell me the reason you posted that particular scripture, and how it relates to the topic at hand.

How about, “I go to my God and your God”? That pretty much sums it up, eh? If the God of Jesus is not some triune being made up of a father and a son, then neither is our God – because Jesus said they are one and the same.

Quote (Colter @ April 09 2013,19:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 10 2013,12:23)Quote (Colter @ April 08 2013,18:45)Hi Mike,In short, the Jews still had their law after Jesus established the kingdom of heaven. Not one letter fell from it.Matthew 517 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them b…[Read more]

Kerwin?

That's right, Abe. Read your own post. It say Jesus did not come to help angels, but to help the seed (descendants) of Abraham.Do you think this is saying Jesus has children? If so, I cannot see it.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 10 2013,09:21)As i said the word God has two meanings that must be used every time you use the word God, two parts Mike, POWER “and” TRUST you can not used the word without both senses applied.Actually Gene,Your exact words were “There are not two different meaning for the word GOD there is ONLY ONE and there are NO…[Read more]

Okay Kerwin………….. so then answer my questions.1. Will the many, soon-to-come “Word-Made-Fleshes” (us) also have it said about them that all things were created through them? YES or NO? (If “NO”, then why not?)2. Since you think the Word IS God, it means you think Jesus is “The God-Made-Flesh”, right?3. And since Jesus is the first of…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ April 10 2013,00:32)NOT AS YOU SAID MIKE, I'M AFRAID HE GAVE HIM   a ton of authorityBUTHE GAVE HIM THE ENTIRE AUTHORITY.That's right, Charles. Jesus' God gave Jesus “all authority in heaven and on earth”, right?Just that one little verse is enough to prove that Jesus is not the “God” who gave him all this authority.

t8,Do you believe Hebrews 1:8 refers to Jesus as “a god”?