Quote (t8 @ April 12 2013,00:50)If we put in the word 'a', then a Trinitarian is entitled to put in the word 'the'. And why could they do that? Because both are equally added in to make the sentence intelligible in English. This is why I think you will be arguing this for the rest of your natural life. It might just boil down to this point in the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 12 2013,00:50)Judas being called a devil is an example.And what exactly is “a devil”, t8? A devil is a “false accuser”, and a “slanderer” – according to Strong.Was Judas actually a “false accuser”? If he was, then he was actually “a devil”, right? So no need to imagine that Jesus really meant that Judas “had qualities that the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 11 2013,23:11)Again they seem clearly inferred by the context.Bingo Kerwin!And since we, in English, don't say, came to him in dream, context surely seems to dictate that it was A dream. Why? Because there had been no particular dream mentioned before. If there had, then we could say “THE dream” – referring back to that…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 10 2013,22:50)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 09 2013,04:01)Quote (kerwin @ April 06 2013,19:41)Mike,Your words infer Jehovah did not create the multidimensions of space.How?Mike,A body occupies space.If Jehovah has always had a body then he has always occupied space.For space to be always be occupied Jehovah it must always…[Read more]

Okay, so nobody was able to tell me how God Almighty Himself could be with God Almighty Himself.Nobody was able to show me where John the Baptist ever came to testify about the Holy Spirit.Moving on……………14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the only begotten Son, who came from the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 12 2013,14:05)I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God,In YOUR understanding, that means, I will dwell in them, and walk in them, AND EVEN BECOME FLESH LIKE THEM.  Like I said, don't confuse God dwelling IN man via His Spirit with God being “MADE FLESH”.Kerwin, just address the “AND” problem in 1:14,…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 12 2013,08:58)Mike………If God is “IN” you then His Presence is there, Just as he was “IN” Jesus. Now if i and Jesus are Flesh being then God is “IN” and Present “IN” my flesh. Non of that makes God a Flesh being, nor have i suggested it either. But that IS what Kerwin is saying, Gene. He is saying that God was…[Read more]

BTW, we never finished this “Word-Made-Flesh” discussion.  Do you remember from before that the way you are explaining those words won't work in 1:14 because of the word “AND”?If Jesus IS “The Word-Made-Flesh”, then it can be said that the Word-Made-Flesh dwelled among us.  But it CANNOT be said that the Word-Made-Flesh AND dwelled among u…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 12 2013,00:03)Mike,You either acknowledge Scripture is true when it states Jehovah comes to dwell in those that believe through his Spirit or you declare it is false.If you believe it is true in some manner then you believe God is made flesh in the multitude of believers in the same way.Kerwin,MEN are flesh. God is NOT man…[Read more]

Ed,Daniel and I will be discussing that issue in the “Where is God?” thread. Join in there if you dare.

Quote (jammin @ April 12 2013,20:21)believe it or not, God is a nature and you can read that in phil 2.6No jammin,”Natures” aren't called “He”, or “Father”.  PERSONS are called by those names – not “natures”.And Phil 2 doesn't say anything of the sort. jammin, I'm not one bit surprised that you worship a NATURE as your God and Creator. That…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ April 12 2013,20:23)not two yahwehs but two personsIs the person “Jesus” Yahweh?Is the person “the Father” Yahweh?If BOTH of these TWO persons are “Yahweh”, it adds up to TWO Yahwehs.

Quote (jammin @ April 12 2013,20:20)your father is a human BEING and you are also a HUMAN BEING.But are we two different persons in the SAME being, jammin?If we are not, then your analogy fails miserably.  (It has failed for months, but you're just too stubborn to admit it.)

Quote (carmel @ April 12 2013,14:28)So Jesus IS TRULY GodNo Charles,Jesus is the SON OF God. God Almighty doesn't have a God of His own, but Jesus does. In fact, the God of Jesus is the same exact God who is the God of us.So unless the God OF Jesus is a triune being, then neither is our God – for they are both one and the same.

Quote (carmel @ April 12 2013,10:46)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 12 2013,13:03)Charles, suppose Paul taught that Jesus died a DIFFERENT kind of death than the rest of us do.Mike,That’s my point!If Jesus died like we do, He would have emphasized IT A HELL OF A LOT since it was EXTREMELY FUNDAMENTAL,but since REGARDING JESUS DEATH all his words WERE s…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ April 12 2013,08:17)There is at least  ONE  particular person who died more then a thousand years ago!His body is intact.AND WHEN A BODY HAS NO LIFE, IT SHOULD BECOME DUST, TO CONFIRM THAT HE DIED LIKE ALL THE RESTCharles, Don't allow the fact that God didn't allow Jesus' body to see decay to confuse you into thinking he didn't a…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 12 2013,01:17)Two Yahwehs are one in nature. That is still is two Yawehs. Two Johns are one in nature. How many Johns are there?I know you are trying to express the weird and contradictory teaching that 1 Yawheh plus 1 Yawheh = 1 Yawheh. It is an irrational teaching that cannot be explained rationally. When you attempt…[Read more]

Quote (4Thomas @ April 12 2013,00:23)I have read your post mike and I have the answers for you, will post them probably after the weekend. Yes I believe Jesus is the greatest messager but to say that this is why you believe he is an angel is a huge leap of faith especially when scriptures reveals jesus as the great God and saviour not the great…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ April 11 2013,22:18)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 12 2013,12:44)Quote (jammin @ April 10 2013,21:15)of course jesus is not God the father.you must also know that there is God the only son.That adds up to TWO Gods, jammin.  I believe in ONE Almighty God.LOLwhy did you say ALMIGHTY?bec you believe that there is also god right? LOLYes, I…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 11 2013,10:55)Indeed it is GOD who will be “IN” ALL and THROUGH ALL,Does God being “in all and through all” mean that everyone will be “God-Made-Flesh”, Gene?Will YOU someday be “God-Made-Flesh”?