Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 10 2013,09:55)You have not told us what is your rendition of a SPIRIT “BODY” is, what does it look likeGene,When you someday find out what the body of a angel looks like, you'll know what a spiritual body looks like.

Quote (barley @ May 10 2013,12:11)God foreknew Jesus ChristOr, we could re-word your statement this way:Jesus was known by the Father BEFORE (foreknown=”known before”), but he has been manifested in these last days for our sake – so we too can know him.What do you think about that understanding, oatmeal?

Quote (carmel @ May 10 2013,14:27)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 10 2013,10:19)In the state of his Father”?     What if “ascend to” simply means “ascend to”?  Then what?Mike,What if “ascend to” in that particular verse means both in the state of the Father, and also went up in heaven”?THEN WHAT?HOW ABOUT ALL OF US IN, and FOR THE LOVE OF JESUS, WHO IS…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ May 10 2013,15:20)SO WHY THE HELL YOU PUT JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD, WHICH IS THE ONLY WAY TO SWALLOW IT,AND IN THE SAME TIME  DO NOT RESPECT HIM ACCORDINGLY, IN THE SAME BASKET OF ALL THE DUNG OF USNo Charles,Jesus is my Savior.  If not for what he did, there would be no chance of an everlasting life for any of us.  I hold hi…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ May 10 2013,00:15)Mike,ARE YOU CONFIRMING THAT THERE IS:A GODA GOD IN FLESHTHE SON OF GODAND THE SON OF GOD IN FLESH?No Charles,I was saying that Jesus wasn't ever “God in the flesh”. Instead, he was the “Son OF God in the flesh”.

Well Kerwin,Are angels “beings”? Of course. Even Gene acknowledges this.So what then, COULD it possibly mean to say “angels are spirits”?I'm open for suggestions. Gene believes it means that angels HAVE ministering spirits IN them………. but that thought is surely not in the text.What do YOU think Paul meant?

Quote (jammin @ May 09 2013,02:10)you did not answer it.The 9th post of page 836 was the SECOND TIME I answered it.

I don't follow, Kerwin. I don't know of any pronouns that are used with a plural of majesty – only nouns.What are you saying?

Quote (Lightenup @ May 08 2013,22:00)Mike,you saidQuote And I also realize that just as Jesus lives BECAUSE OF the Father, we can live because of him.  Just as the Father has eternal life in Him, so He has GRANTED the Son to also have eternal life in him.  I learned these things from Jesus himself, Kathi.Did it say that He granted the Son to have &…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 08 2013,21:55)Mike,you saidQuote I realize that Jesus WAS with the Father in the beginning.  He was created as the FIRST of God's works, remember? I remember that you are trying to force that idea but even the NET translators do not agree that He was created who prefer that word 'created' in Prov 8:22…remember??Well, the…[Read more]

Okay Kerwin,You have been a part of the discussion for most of the MANY times jammin accused me of not answering his questions (“You have not done your homeworks”, as he puts it ).  Consider yourself an honorary moderator for today.  Would YOU give me a tile in these cases?

Quote (abe @ May 09 2013,13:23)1Tim.2:5   For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,the  ManWhy do people always neglect to post the latter part of that statement?For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all people.Of course J…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ May 09 2013,11:48)One judge was called “a judge”.I see.  So 20 of them would be called “judges”, while only one of them would be called “A judge”.  Is that correct?So if, instead of calling those 20 people “judges”, I called them “gods”, what would only one of them be called?  (Use your previous answer to help you out.)As for th…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 08 2013,20:34)So show the one scripture that say Angles are Sprit “beings”……….Hebrews 1:14Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 08 2013,20:34)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 09 2013,09:34)Genesis 6:4The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.Were these human woman impregnated by the seven spirits of God?My bib…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 08 2013,19:42)there are no Angels that are “IN” beings, only Sprits that are at working “IN” beings. IMOGene, Who are Satan's angels? I say they are the ones who are also called “demons” in scripture. What do YOU say?

Quote (942767 @ May 09 2013,17:30)Are you trying to state that he “was going to ascend to the position of the Father”?The proof is the scripture itself.Quote Jhn 16:16 ¶ A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.  Jhn 16:28   I came forth from the Father, and am come into th…[Read more]

jammin,Who exactly created the heavens and the earth? Was it a “nature” that created all things? What do you say?

The vast MAJORITY of Trinitarians call it a mystery, Kerwin………….. because none of them can explain it to anyone else without sounding like blathering idiots.They actually REALIZE that they sound like blathering idiots when they try to explain this nonsense.  And after a while, they just get tired of sounding like blathering idiots, and…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ May 09 2013,14:55)Why did Jesus told Magdalene that he was not yet in the state of His Father………“In the state of his Father”?    What if “ascend to” simply means “ascend to”?  Then what?Charles, just ASSUME it does for a minute.  ASSUME that Jesus ascended to his Father and his God.  Does God Almighty have a father?  Doe…[Read more]