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    Quote (jammin @ May 13 2013,23:25)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 14 2013,13:32)What then, DOES the word “God” refer to when Jesus is called “the Son of God”?Does it refer to a PERSON?  A LIVING BEING?  What?Christ is the son of GOD (father)So the word “God” refers to “the Father”?And is “the Father” a LIVING BEING/PERSON – or a NATURE?

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    Quote (jammin @ May 14 2013,16:33)you like doctrine that is not WRITTENKerwin and I believe the doctrine that says Jehovah our God is one, and He has a Son named Jesus. I believe that is written all throughout scripture, jammin.But how about YOUR doctrine that Jehovah our God is THREE, and Jesus is a PART OF that triune Godhead? Where exactly is…[Read more]

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    Gene,As I just explained to Abe in the other thread, a “being” is a person, who has their own mind, thoughts, will, power, etc. They are an individual, and can come and go.A lion is a living being. Jesus is a being. A man is a being. Angels are beings. Satan is a being. God is a being. The Holy Spirit is NOT a being, but an extension or…[Read more]

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    I've shown you scriptures that prove the words are literal, Gene.Also, what is your response to knowing that the word “angels” is not genitive? Now that you know the words do NOT mean “God makes the spirits OF His angels” – what do you have to say?

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    Quote (jammin @ May 12 2013,20:28)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 13 2013,11:00)Quote (jammin @ May 12 2013,16:36)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 11 2013,12:07)When Jesus is called “the Son of God”, does the word “God” refer to a “nature”?  If not, then to what DOES it refer?son of a nature?do you have a common sense boy>?So I take it that you DON'T think Jesus…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ May 13 2013,20:13)NET ©but of 1  the Son he says, 2  “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, 3  and a righteous scepter 4  is the scepter of your kingdom.NET © Notes2 tn The verb “he says” (λέγει, legei) is implied from the λέγει of v. 7.I've explained this to Abe before, Pierre.He is forgetting the implied “he says”.  It…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ May 12 2013,19:15)Did the fact that Jesus is the Son and God is his God change….. ?Nope.  Jesus is still the son of the MOST HIGH God, Marty.  But tell me, is it even possible for Jehovah to be the MOST HIGH God if there exist no “less high” gods?  Is it possible for Him to be the “God OF gods” if there exist no other gods for Hi…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 13 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (4Thomas @ May 12 2013,19:22)Now common sense would clearly show that if wisdom was actually a person which is huge leap of faith in itself that with the revealation of Jesus being the Son that it would IDENTIFY wisdom as a MALE.Hi Daniel,In the Hebrew and Greek languages, wisdom is a feminine word.  But we must not confuse “grammatical…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 13 2013,18:45)Mike………Yes God makes his angels spirits, he makes our spirits also……..The words don't say “God makes the spirits OF the angels”, Gene.  The word “aggelos” is not written in the genitive form.  Therefore it cannot mean what you think it means.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 13 2013,18:45)Do you also b…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 13 2013,08:23)God could have been just as well, speaking to His Seven spirits that are before his Throne of God.But you don't think spirits are “beings”, Gene. So how does God go about talking to these non-being spirits as if they were persons?Also, don't you constantly insist that spirits are “what is IN someone”? Who…[Read more]

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    Quote (abe @ May 13 2013,01:03)Do angels have souls?Absolutely. Their Father and God has a soul………. why wouldn't they?Some of us will become “like the angels”, Abe. Will those of us “lose their souls” when that happens?

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    Quote (jammin @ May 12 2013,21:09)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 13 2013,11:12)I'm asking you to find a Hebrew or Greek word that specifically MEANS “omnipresence”.I'm willing to admit I was wrong and learn from scripture, jammin.  But only if you are able to produce that scripture for me.here is your request boy ps 139.7אנה אלך מרוחך ואנה מפניך…[Read more]

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    Kerwin,I await a response to my other post (the 6th one on the previous page).

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    Quote (kerwin @ May 12 2013,20:04)Paul(?)  is referring to angels by the type of spirit they have.Paul doesn't say angels HAVE ministering spirits.  He says they ARE ministering spirits.Kerwin, since we know Paul is talking about REAL angels, and angels ARE spirit beings, is there any reason to think he was only METAPHORICALLY calling them “…[Read more]

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    Quote (abe @ May 12 2013,19:29)Hi Mike,Gen.2:21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up its place with flesh;22And from the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.23And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of…[Read more]

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    I'm glad you're still kicking! :)There's really not any reason for you to respond, Wm. My posts were more to show you how I currently understand it.I was just running it by you to see what you thought.

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    Quote (Ed J @ May 13 2013,03:04)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 13 2013,06:02)2 Corinthians 5:16 NASB © Therefore from now on we recognize no one according to the flesh; even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him in this way no longer.Thanks Ed.  That scripture goes along way towards confirming that Christ is no longer a…[Read more]

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    I hope Wm's illness hasn't gotten the better of him.(I'm up to section 27 now, and it's still pretty good stuff.)

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 13 years, 5 months ago

    So then YOU were able to read his question, and my response to it, and decide that, in your humble opinion, the question was answered, and therefore a tile was unnecessary?Why don't you have the same faith in me and t8 that I just placed in you by making you an honorary moderator for this one case? ???

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    Quote (jammin @ May 12 2013,16:31)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 11 2013,11:14)Quote (jammin @ May 09 2013,21:14)you want hebrew and greekYep.  And unless you can show me from the Greek, Aramaic, or Hebrew words of scripture that God is “omnipresent”, you shouldn't make the claim.And until you can show me what I'm asking for, there is really no need for…[Read more]

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