Quote (kerwin @ May 18 2013,12:22)T8,The book of Hebrews calls the members of the host of heaven, with the exception of God, the Messenger kind. It makes clear Jesus is not one of them.Show me, Kerwin.

Quote (Lightenup @ May 18 2013,23:58)Mike,Quote I'll await her scripture that says such a thing.  From what I'VE read in the scriptures, the Lord God Almighty SENT His Son into the earth where that Son died at the hands of men. Acts 20:28Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 18 2013,17:31)Here is what Strong's says: Quote psuchikos: natural, of the soul or mindOriginal Word: ψυχικός, ή, όνPart of Speech: AdjectiveTransliteration: psuchikosPhonetic Spelling: (psoo-khee-kos')Short Definition: animal, natural, sensuousDefinition: animal, natural, sensuous.1 Corinthians 15 NIV44 it is sown a natural…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ May 18 2013,14:01)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)What it means is the RULER of Jesus is God.Mike,I AM DEFINITELY CONVINCED THAT it is absurdly silly of you to think the words “the head of Christ is God” means GOD IS THE RULER OVER CHRIST! Charles, God being the “head of” Christ means the same thing as Christ being the “head of” man.The words…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 18 2013,10:40)Quote (david @ May 18 2013,10:15)Why do you think he will be flesh when he returns?  Do you think he is flesh now, in heaven?David,His body is same body Adam and Eve had when they were created, not the body they had after the fall.  Scripture states the pre-fall body was flesh and bone.  Scripture also attests Je…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 17 2013,18:43)I do know he was responding to both the situation and Jesus' words as well as speaking to Jesus.  An expression of faith seems to fit those things.Okay, but let's look at it from the other angle:  What scripture would prohibit Thomas from simply addressing Jesus as his Lord and his God?Jesus is a lord and a god, r…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 17 2013,18:55)Thomas was not addressing Jesus he was answering him and speaking to him.Isn't that what the word “address” means? “Answering” and “speaking to”?

Quote (kerwin @ May 17 2013,18:47)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 18 2013,06:00)Quote (kerwin @ May 17 2013,14:31): a parallel or closely similar case especially when serving as a precedent or modelIs there a word missing here?Mike,Not of my making as far as I can tell.It seems to be a definition of some word……… but WHAT word?

Yes Abe. I believe we've already agreed that Jesus is called “light”.Do you agree that the disciples of Jesus are also called “light” – by Jesus himself?

Abe,Please address my points.Is Jesus literally our ONLY Lord?Can you see that the same “all things” that came FROM God also came THROUGH Jesus Christ?

Ha! “Trihards”!

Abe,Matthew 5:14You are the light of the world. God is light. Jesus is light. The disciples are light.

Quote (kerwin @ May 17 2013,14:31): a parallel or closely similar case especially when serving as a precedent or modelIs there a word missing here?

Quote (kerwin @ May 17 2013,14:17)As for this conversation I have used a few examples to demonstrate that when a person is either responding to an event or another person's words and saying “my Lord and my God” does not mean they are calling the person they are speaking to or the event “my Lord and my God”.Kerwin,I would agree if the person said…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 16 2013,23:57)Peter tells Jesus who he is with the words “you are”.In what context?  Surely Peter wouldn't have unexpectedly seen Jesus on a street corner and said, YOU ARE my Lord!  He more than likely would have just said, My Lord!

Quote (Ed J @ May 16 2013,22:58)Thomas was surprised to see Jesus alive  -and- he was calling YHVH his God.If you say so. I believe you are claiming that Thomas was saying, My Lord, alive and well?! My God, that's amazing!But if that was the case, why the word “and”? Lots of people say “OMG!”. But I don't ever hear anyone saying “AND…[Read more]

Yes Kerwin. He was seen ascending on the clouds. He will return the same way, ie: being seen coming on the clouds.Neither of these say anything about Jesus being the only flesh being in a heaven full of spirit beings. In fact, the very idea of that is absurd, if you ask me.

Quote (t8 @ May 17 2013,02:25)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 17 2013,14:49)Did God Almighty Himself come to earth and die at the hands of human beings?  Or did someone LESSER THAN God Almighty come to earth and die at the hands of human beings?Which one?I would also like Daniel to answer that question DIRECTLY.Good luck with a straight answer for that…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 16 2013,23:17)The Son of Man is Jesus according to the flesh but Jesus wasn't the Son of Man until He was given life in the flesh in the womb of Mary. The Son of Man was not alive before or during creation.Okay, now I'm getting confused. You say the “Lord God Almighty” came to earth and died. I don't know of any scripture…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ May 16 2013,22:34)those verses clearly said that GOD is everywhere.No they didn't. That is just what you're reading into those verses.jammin, let's talk about this point that you and Kathi neglected to answer about 30 pages ago:Hebrews 1In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways,…[Read more]