Quote (kerwin @ May 20 2013,01:01)Jesus cannot be the Son mentioned in John 1:18 as that causes John 1:18 to come into conflict with 1 Corinthians 2:11.No it doesn't.

Quote (jammin @ May 19 2013,21:32)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 20 2013,10:39)Hebrews 1In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son……..jammin, who is the “God” that spoke through prophets in the past, and through His Son in “these last…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 17 2013,17:45)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 18 2013,04:57)Quote (kerwin @ May 17 2013,15:49)1 Corinthians 2:11For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him?Kerwin,Is the spirit of a man the son of that man?Mike,Are you aware you are asking if the relationship of a man's spirit to a man is in some…[Read more]

Quote (Guest @ May 19 2013,18:43)“But Zion said, hath forsaken me, and my Lord hath forgotten me.I don't personally see a reference to Jesus in that verse, Ed. I see Jehovah being called first by His personal name, and then by the word “adonay”.

Quote (terraricca @ May 18 2013,06:19)Quote (abe @ May 18 2013,09:02)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 17 2013,16:33)Abe,Please address my points.Is Jesus literally our ONLY Lord?Can you see that the same “all things” that came FROM God also came THROUGH Jesus Christ?Hi Mike,1 Corinthians 8:5 For even if there are those called gods,*For even if*    even I…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ May 19 2013,17:18)Hi Mike:And so, yes, the Son is God in that through His life of obedience to God's Word, we has seen God's character manifest through his life, but no, he is not “a god”.  So in YOUR understanding, when Jesus is called “god”, it refers to him being called “The MOST HIGH God Almighty, Creator of Heavens and…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ May 18 2013,16:51)The scripture does not say “to the Son he saith: “you are a god”.  And the scripture in Isaiah 9 does not say that he is “a mighty god”……..Marty, You are in semantic denial. I've led you to the water – it's up to you whether or not you will drink.

Quote (942767 @ May 18 2013,16:51)And so, if you say that “he is a god” then according to the scripture above, he would have to be “a false god”, would he not?Is Satan “a god”, Marty? Is he a “false god”? If so, which SCRIPTURE calls him such? In fact, which scripture calls ANY being a “false god”?Angels are called gods. You yourself have said…[Read more]

Hebrews 1In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son……..jammin, who is the “God” that spoke through prophets in the past, and through His Son in “these last days”?

Quote (kerwin @ May 19 2013,14:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 20 2013,00:55)Oh, and you must also explain how your theory works in light of the fact that, in John 3, Jesus mentioned only “flesh” – not “flesh and blood”, or “flesh and bone”.Mike,Offhand I venture that Jesus is speaking in a spiritual sense as he is teaching about the rebirth of the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 19 2013,14:08)Mike,I have already established that flesh and bone exist in the kingdom of heaven.What?    If you did, I must have missed it.  Show me the scripture again.Quote (kerwin @ May 19 2013,14:08)There is no evidence blood either existed or did not exist before the fall.Kerwin, are you claiming that Adam and Eve co…[Read more]

Gene,Can you tell me in that Ezekiel passage where it says it is about the final resurrection of all people?So it's not that I don't think GOD means what He says. It's more a matter of I rarely agree with YOUR understanding of what God has said. See the difference?Also, I don't have anything against physical bodies. I have no reason to believe…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 19 2013,13:56)ED J………… You have posted it exactly right. The light finally came on in Thomas and he finally  understood the the Father (GOD) was truly “IN” his Lord Jesus Christ, and responded by saying   my Lord “AND” my GOD. John 2027 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out you…[Read more]

Kathi,Despite what Gabriel Roth claims, all lexicon evidence from as far back as we can look says that “mrya” is simply the emphatic form for the Aramaic word for “lord”.  Similarly, the Hebrew word “adonay” is simply the emphatic form of the Hebrew word for “lord”.And just as the Hebrews stopped saying the Divine Name, and said “Lord” instead,…[Read more]

Yeah, but I already addressed that, right?I could make an acronym out of “A D O N A I”, but it wouldn't make the word stop being simply the emphatic form of “adon” – would it?The fact that some priest poetically made “mrya” into an acronym at some point in history is not exactly “proof” of anything, now is it?Nor does his acronym say one thing at…[Read more]

Oh, and you must also explain how your theory works in light of the fact that, in John 3, Jesus mentioned only “flesh” – not “flesh and blood”, or “flesh and bone”.

Quote (kerwin @ May 19 2013,12:10)All I have to demonstrate is that the pre-fall Adam was flesh and bone and was in the kingdom of God.No, actually you need to show that the pre-fall Adam:1. Had a change of body after the fall.2. Did NOT consist of blood.Can you show these things from the scriptures?

Quote (4Thomas @ May 19 2013,06:46)I disagree with wisdom being referred to as a “he” as nowhere does it say this.Daniel,Most people, many of them Trinitarians, believe the wisdom in Prov 8:22 is Christ.  You apparently don't, and that's fine.The two points we were making are:1.  If the wisdom IS Christ, then it is clear that Christ had a begin…[Read more]

Quote (4Thomas @ May 19 2013,01:25)By taking on human flesh, its simple. Jesus spirit didn't change, Jesus received a human body, his human body grew but his spirit is the same yesterday today and forever.Hi Daniel,You and I both believe there exists only ONE Almighty God.  This is good, because this is correct.  Question:  Can the persons wi…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 19 2013,00:00)Mike,Do you believe that the theos of John 1:1b sent the theos of John 1:1c to earth to die at the hands of men?Yes or NoYes.