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    Quote (kerwin @ June 03 2013,05:14)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 03 2013,02:17)Kerwin,Genesis 6 1 When men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose.In verse 1, who is included in the word “men”?  Only Cain's line?…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ June 03 2013,05:05)What I am hearing is that you are claiming God's body does not actually exist but is an ideal.No, I believe God really does have a body of some kind, Kerwin. What else would separate what IS “God” from what is “NOT God”?But believe what you like.

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    Quote (kerwin @ June 03 2013,04:51)Nice device that allows you to keep your paradigm alive.Come on, Kerwin.  What else are we supposed to think?  Paul and Jesus both make it very clear that flesh cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven.  And since we know that heaven is a spiritual realm, occupied by spirit beings like God and His angels, your co…[Read more]

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    Ed,1 Corinthians 11:26For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.1 Corinthians 15:23But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.1 Thessalonians 2:19For what is our hope, our joy, or the crown in which we will glory in the presence of our Lord Jesus <…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ June 02 2013,17:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 03 2013,04:22)Quote (2besee @ June 02 2013,01:44)Ed J,Two things which deceivers can do, and how to tell them according to John:1a) Deny that Jesus was flesh and bone like we are, 1b) Deny that Jesus will return in the flesh.2) Deny the Father and Son.#2 is correct.#1 is wrong on both…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ June 02 2013,17:19)Mike,I answered honestly but I chose to make it less vague than what you wanted to hear.Actually Kerwin, as is par for you, you chose to make things way more CONFUSING and MUMBLED than they ever needed to be.Quote God is not created.All bodies are created because bodies occupy space.All beings are created.  God…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ June 02 2013,18:10)Quote (carmel @ June 03 2013,11:03)SO WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE TRINITY?It's not in the Bible or even the books that didn't make it into the Bible.Plus, the trinity calls for the Son OF God to BE the very God he is the Son OF. And that is nothing but nonsense. Jesus either IS God, or he is the SON OF God. He can't be…[Read more]

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    Kerwin,Genesis 6 1 When men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose.In verse 1, who is included in the word “men”? Only Cain's line? Or does it mean men IN GENERAL?

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    Quote (kerwin @ June 02 2013,13:49)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 02 2013,22:16)Is God a being?  YES or NO?Mike,Yes, God is a being.Kerwin, All you EVER have to worry about is answering HONESTLY. If you think your HONEST answers will “get you in trouble”, then you apparently don't have any faith in your own honest answers. Perhaps you're afraid that…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ June 02 2013,13:39)Neither Adam's or Eve's flesh bodies were made by human hands. They were immortal bodies before the fall.There is no scripture that says such a thing, Kerwin……… but let's assume there was.So now we have Adam and Eve, the only two flesh bodies that were NOT made by human hands. But Jesus says flesh GIVES…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ June 02 2013,13:25)Cain's line started after he was hidden from the face of God.Oh, so SETH'S line INCLUDES Adam and God – but CAIN'S line doesn't?   ???Kerwin, among those of the line of Seth, who was godly at the time of the flood?

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    Quote (abe @ June 02 2013,12:40)Is it not quite PLAIN there are two Kingdoms?No Abe,There will be only ONE kingdom. It is the called both the kingdom of the Son, and the kingdom of the Father, because both will rule over it.Right now it is also called the kingdom of heaven, because that is where it exists for the time being. Remember Jesus said…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 13 years, 4 months ago

    Daniel,I know your time is limited, so let's get down to the heart of this matter.1. Do you believe there exists only ONE Most High God Jehovah? YES or NO?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 13 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (4Thomas @ June 02 2013,13:38)We should never call Angels Yahweh Mike, this argument shouldn't be used to try and prove that it wasn’t THE true Son the true expressed substance of the Father that was revealed.Daniel,What you say we should never do really has no bearing on what has clearly been shown to have been done in scripture.Did you r…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 13 years, 4 months ago

    Daniel,I like you as well.  But your posts are increasingly larger and larger, and keep bringing up even more of what you consider to be “Jesus is God” proofs, before we've even concluded the former points.For example, now we are off on a discussion about whether or not Moses LITERALLY saw the face of God.  Your claim seems to be that Moses DID s…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 13 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 31 2013,20:13)The Greek words are NOT:  with the blood of himself.So why DO you suppose Paul said, “with the blood of his own“ instead of, “with the blood of himself“?Kathi,Compare Acts 20:28 with the following:Romans 8:32Indeed, he who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all………..The Greek word is once…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ June 01 2013,06:04)Quote (Lightenup @ May 25 2013,20:16)It is entirely possible that John wrote in Aramaic first and then handed it to a scribe to write in Greek.Then again not.Greek was a widespread language by that time.Origen (184/185 – 253/254) seemed to be under the impression that John wrote in Greek.“We next notice John’s use o…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ June 01 2013,15:52)Mike,Please! means you are being absurd and I have no intention of answering you according to your ways.:D :laugh: :D Kerwin, you have NOT been able to show that the Holy Spirit is EVER referred to as “the Son of God” – or that this absurd claim is even HINTED AT in ANY scripture.If and when you ARE able to show such a…[Read more]

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    Quote (carmel @ June 01 2013,06:42)Mike,ARE DENYING THE SCRIPTURE?Now you should know then what is our origin?We were created by God as a new species, starting with Adam and Eve.

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    Quote (2besee @ May 31 2013,23:23)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 01 2013,15:46)Quote (2besee @ May 29 2013,20:14)Mike it doesn't matter if it says “so called gods” or “those called gods” because Paul goes on to say that EVEN IF THERE ARE….for US there is… One God, just as Jesus said.Actually 2B,Paul went on to say, “as indeed there ARE many gods and…[Read more]

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