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    Quote (carmel @ June 08 2013,10:09)I accept what the Quran states regarding Moses asked God TO GIVE HIM ARON!Exodus 410 Moses said to the Lord, “Pardon your servant, Lord. I have never been eloquent, neither in the past nor since you have spoken to your servant. I am slow of speech and tongue.”11 The Lord said to him, “Who gave human beings their…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ June 08 2013,02:07)Quote (bodhitharta @ June 08 2013,14:44)So you assert that moses was not healed or cured from his speech impediment, correct?Hi BD,No, I'm suggesting that I don't know,AND there is no evidence to suggest he was.At least none that I've seen; why, do you have any?EdI agree with Ed. Is there scriptural evidence of…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ June 08 2013,13:22)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2013,01:13)Can any of you tell me how the earth can be God's footstool if the earth resides WITHIN God?Mike,How can heaven be his throne if he resides inside of it?Or better yet: How can heaven be the throne of God if heaven itself resides WITHIN God? :)The saying “heaven is God's…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 13 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ June 08 2013,13:07)Mike,If I were to speculate then it seems plausible that at the right time adam was to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and then of the tree of life and so become like angels. As it is adam ate before he was mature enough to escape harm.I can agree with that – as speculation.The point is that…[Read more]

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    Can any of you tell me how the earth can be God's footstool if the earth resides WITHIN God?

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    Quote (abe @ June 06 2013,20:54)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2013,17:17)Matthew 6:9″This, then, is how you should pray: “‘Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name…………Where is our Father, Abe?  Do a word search of “father in heaven”, and see how many times Jesus referred to our Father, who is IN HEAVEN.Also, how can the earth be God's fo…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 06 2013,20:53)Mike……….. Jesus said Even the Son of Man who is”IN” Heaven He said that while being still on earth> What your take on that Mike?Read up on that scripture, Gene. Then get back to me. The words “who is in heaven” are thought to be a scribal error. The words are amended in many mss, and completely…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ June 06 2013,20:50)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 07 2013,07:17)Matthew 6:9″This, then, is how you should pray: “‘Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name…………Where is our Father, Abe?  Do a word search of “father in heaven”, and see how many times Jesus referred to our Father, who is IN HEAVEN.Also, how can the earth be Go…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ June 07 2013,18:13)Quote (abe @ June 08 2013,09:17)Mike calls Jesus god, do you believe this also?Personally no I do not. I call him lord, the messiah, son of God, and the way to God.That said, I also acknowledge that scripture calls him and counsels theos. But I also don't call these counsels theos/gods myself. But it is technically…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ June 07 2013,12:56)I aknowledge that the scriptures state that there are those who are called “gods” or “god” for a particular reason, as I have already stated, but that does not make them “a god”.See 2B? This is what I mentioned in my post to you.Marty is saying, “They are called gods, but aren't really gods.”That's like saying,…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ June 07 2013,06:30)2b, I know that Mike believes that the one true God is the Father, and that Jesus and counsels of God are called theos.But I do disagree with Mike regarding the way John 1:1c uses the word theos. I believe it is qualitatively used and so do many scholars including Trinitarian ones. But the Trinitarian scholars that…[Read more]

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    Quote (2besee @ June 07 2013,05:18)T8,You will have to ask Mike and Terraricca what all of the fuss is about, because it is the two of them who have disagreed with Paul's words, and choose to believe instead that there are multiple gods.“Disagreed with Paul's words”? Or accepted them?“as indeed there are many gods and many lords”

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    Quote (2besee @ June 06 2013,20:31) Quote (mikeboll @ 64)1. In 1 Cor 8:6, was Paul teaching that Jesus was LITERALLY our ONLY lord? YES or NO?Jesus is OUR only lord as in spiritually.So then Jehovah, the Lord God of heaven and earth, is NOT your lord, 2B?   ???  (Please answer this DIRECTLY)Quote (2besee @ June 06 2013,20:31) Quote (mikeboll @ 6…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ June 06 2013,20:24)Hi Mike:I have already showed you how.  The scripture states to a born again Christian there is but One God, the Father, and “one Lord” the Lord Jesus.And the scripture also states that to a born again Christian there is but “One God” the Father, and the original question before you chose to go on this tangent…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ June 06 2013,20:19)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 07 2013,08:05)2B,I'd be happy with direct and honest answers to those 3 questions.MIKE2bee will not give your answers because if he does he will have to change his false belief about the scriptures………Pierre,When I first read this comment, I thought you were going to be wrong.…[Read more]

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    Quote (2besee @ June 06 2013,19:57)Mike seems to believe that there are many Gods in heaven and on earth……….I wonder where that idiot Mike ever got that idea?1 Cor 8:5 For even if there are those called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many gods and many lords)…………Oh, that's right.  Idiot Mike is simply…[Read more]

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    Quote (2besee @ June 06 2013,19:57)T8,'Yes', Jesus did say “ye are gods, all sons of the most high” – but the quoted scripture ALSO said “I tell you you are men, and you will die like men” so that is not saying that they were 'supernatural heavenly Gods' is it?The bolded part is not in the scripture you are paraphrasing, 2B.Psalm 821 God standeth…[Read more]

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    2B,I'd be happy with direct and honest answers to those 3 questions.

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    Please don't continue, Charles. Do you realize that you don't have to post a million words each time? I read all of that post to gather this little bit of information which could have been said in one sentence: Mike, I believe that the “God” mentioned in Gen 1:27 is a different God than the “Lord God” mentioned in 2:7.To which I say:Malachi…[Read more]

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    Both Moses and Aaron spoke to Pharaoh. But Ed is right on this one, Asana. Moses was whining because of his speech impediment, and GOD (not Moses) came up with the solution of sending Aaron along with him as his “mouth”.The Midrash relates an interesting tradition: Moses was an exceedingly handsome baby; whoever saw him could not take their eyes…[Read more]

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