Kerwin,Even though your understanding that someone has the title “The Word-Made-Flesh” cannot possibly work, since the word “AND” in John 1:14 prohibits it, I'm still curious.Who exactly do you think this “Word-Made-Flesh” person is? A merger of God's “Holy Spirit Son” and Jesus of Nazareth?

Quote (kerwin @ June 18 2013,06:50)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 18 2013,07:49)Does scripture say these seven spirits are like “sons of God”?  Does it say the seven eyes are “archangels”?I don't remember these parts of scripture, Kerwin.Mike,Scripture states that:That Satan who arrived in a group of the sons of God stated he went to and fro and God…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 17 2013,22:44)Well, we are making progress!How so?

Quote (kerwin @ June 18 2013,13:48)None of this is evidence Jesus is God.That's what it all really boils down to, Kerwin.No Trinitarian “proof text” will ever be enough to overrule the fact that Jesus is the Son, Lamb, Priest, Servant, and Prophet OF the Most High God – not the Most High God Himself. These are things that are CLEARLY taught in…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 17 2013,14:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2013,21:09)Quote (Lightenup @ June 10 2013,11:15)I don't need to force anything Mike. He who has the eyes to see, can see it.In this case, he who has vivid imagination can see it.  Jesus has the title “Jehovah is our Righteousness”, just like Israel does.  To read anything else i…[Read more]

2B,You also have the option of skipping over Pierre's posts altogether. He has a unique color of type, so his posts are not that hard to recognize and pass over – if you so desired.(Same with my posts.)

Quote (kerwin @ June 17 2013,18:44)Mike,Quote And Hebrews 2:14 explains the REASON the Word had to BECOME flesh in the first place.I would say that too but I would mean “Word” when I said “Word”.Revelation 1911 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ June 17 2013,18:42)Please, go and learn what a troll is.2B,I wouldn't have to learn these internet geek terms if YOU would just learn how to hit the “Report Post” button when you think someone is out of line.  Different people talk to certain people differently, 2B.  There was a cat here named Kangaroo Jack that I used to go to w…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ June 17 2013,18:34)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 18 2013,12:22)Quote (kerwin @ June 16 2013,22:14)Mike,It is a change of English so it becomes “the Word made flesh lived among us…”.Nonsense, Kerwin.  Nothing but pure, unadulterated nonsense.The word AND is in the Greek text.  Therefore, any understanding you come up with MUST i…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 17 2013,18:33)Mike,Quote John 1:14 speaks about a person called “the Word”, who WASN'T flesh at first, but then “BECAME flesh”.Where is person mentioned?Are you kidding?  The PERSON about whom John said, This is the one I spoke about when I said, ‘He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me’ is the same…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 17 2013,18:26)Mike,Quote Actually, Phil 2 tells how Jesus was existing in the form of God BEFORE being “made in the likeness of a human being”.It does not say that.  The most you can say is that the flow hints that Jesus being in the form of God emptied himself and took on the form of a servant before becoming a human…[Read more]

Does scripture say these seven spirits are like “sons of God”? Does it say the seven eyes are “archangels”?I don't remember these parts of scripture, Kerwin.

Hi Daniel,I believe every one of those MANY scriptures you posted. Unfortunately for you and your doctrine, not even one of them teaches that Jesus IS the God he is the Son OF.Quoting a bunch of scriptures in one post isn't really furthering the discussion. If, however, you want to post JUST ONE of those scriptures, I'll be happy to show you how…[Read more]

Quote (4Thomas @ June 17 2013,00:48)We need to believe Jesus is something either 1)true God 2)archangel, Seraphim or Cherubim  c)man alone.Really Daniel?  NUMBER 1 and NUMBER 2, but then you switch to LETTER c ?  I have a fourth possibility to offer, but don't know if I should write 4), or D).  How about: 4) The firstborn of the many spirit son…[Read more]

Cool. I was just kidding anyway, as I'm sure you know. I've never known you to back down or hide.Take your time.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 17 2013,17:28)Because the word GOD implies obedience and worship and servitude. That is why Paul says there are so-called GODS MANY,Gene, The Biblical meaning of the word “god” is “mighty one” – plain and simple. And Paul never used the phrase “so-called gods”. That “so-called” part was added in by the general…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ June 17 2013,15:50)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 13 2013,18:56)Quote (abe @ June 13 2013,10:38)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2013,17:21)Abe, who are the gods in Psalm 8:5 – the ones Jehovah made man a little lower than?It doesn't matter to Christians, we have  ONE  God.Maybe you have been misunderstanding me, Abe.  I don't claim that WE HA…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 17 2013,14:55)If I were a monitor I would have told you along time ago to try to be more patient with other here.Good advice, Gene.Let's ALL (me included) try to be more patient and respectful to the other members – as far as it depends on us.

Quote (2besee @ June 16 2013,22:08)Mike,But you are agreeing with the harassing posts, so how could you say that you do not read them?2B, I agree with almost everything my friend Pierre posts on this site.  I do NOT agree with the way he sometimes belittles other members in the process of saying those things.  I do NOT agree with his sometimes v…[Read more]

No.  I do NOT believe that – or else it would mean that EVERY SINGLE MAN who had lived up until that point had received the very exclusive gift of the Holy Spirit.You do realize that SEVEN spirits of God are mentioned in Revelation, don't you?