Quote (Ed J @ July 03 2013,07:53)Moshe used the Hebrew word “EL-o-heem”, NOT THE ENGLISH WORD gods. So it is YOU that I disagree with, not Moses.So then you disagree with me and your precious AKJV, right?  Okay.  What English word would you use for “elohim” in Deuteronomy 32:17?Deuteronomy 32:17 ◦King James Version They sacrificed unto devils, n…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 03 2013,07:53)The term 'false god' would apply to 'BAAL' , because he is no “GOD” at all – 'FALSE GOD'1. Why are you even talking about Baal? He wasn't mentioned in the scripture we're discussing, was he?2. The word “baal” just means “master”, and there were many of them. For example, Baalzebul, also known as Satan, was the…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 03 2013,07:31)Now as far as the term gods in Deut.32:17, this refers to devils (used earlier in same verse)I do not consider fallen Angels to be gods.Shall we not accept scripture until we've checked with you to see what you consider to be true or false?Sorry Ed, but it doesn't matter one bit what YOU personally think about it,…[Read more]

I don't know, Kerwin.  Read Genesis 24:1-4.  At this time, even Abraham didn't know Jehovah AS “Jehovah”.  (God told Moses they knew Him by “God Almighty”, but did not know Him by His name “Jehovah”.)But the point is that Abraham was the one person out of the world that Jehovah produced HIS nation from.  All people (including Abraham) had oth…[Read more]

You mean like we use the English word “word” in many different symbolic and metaphoric ways?Using a word metaphorically or symbolically does NOT all of a sudden make that word “magic” or something, Kerwin.The Greek word “logos” continues to simply mean “word”.

Quote (4Thomas @ July 02 2013,00:42)You teach that Jesus isn't God and use a single very week scripture to try to prove this.A single scripture?    I don't think things get resolved by posting a million “Jesus is NOT God” scriptures all at once.  I do it one scripture at a time.  Trust me – you'll eventually see hundreds of them…….. if you sti…[Read more]

Quote (4Thomas @ July 02 2013,00:42)First question.Again I KEEP asking PLEASE answer WHY did Jesus say for the sake of salvation that Moses wrote about him and that NO-ONE has ever seen the Fathers form.In John 5:37, Jesus is talking to a specific group of Jewish leaders (see verse 16).  He is telling THEM that THEY have never heard God's voice…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 02 2013,11:21)Mike,El is the general Canaanite name for Jehovah.It is the general term for ANY god (mighty one). The Canaanites didn't even worship Jehovah, Kerwin. They had their own gods (elohim).

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,22:42)Hi Pierre,I cannot be held responsible for you or others not understanding what I mean. I do try very hardthough, to keep you and others from misunderstanding.Whatever. Why not put your money where your mouth is, then?Explain to us three things in very easy to understand language:1. What DID you mean by “I agree,…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,21:42)Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,12:35)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 01 2013,12:08)Let's see if we can find more ways the AKJV is NOT as God intended it to be, okay?Deuteronomy 32:17 They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not.Which one of…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,18:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 02 2013,11:32)Quote (2besee @ July 01 2013,05:29)Do you see how that has the word (logos) AND Jesus Christ?2B,The Greek word “logos” is simply one of their words for “word”.  It refers to words that God has spoken, words that men have spoken, words that have been written down, words that…[Read more]

Daniel, for what seems like the hundredth time……………1.  No man has EVER seen Jehovah (except for Jesus).  Moses was allowed to see God's glory.  Many assume this refers to the “after-effects” of God passing by.Moses never actually saw God as any kind of form.  He never LITERALLY talked directly to God's face, as if God was right there wit…[Read more]

MY misconception? Earlier, you told me you were sorry because you edited a post AFTER I responded to it. You said it was YOUR mistake. Imagine my surprise to find a different post on the next page explaining how I was the one who made the mistake by quoting the wrong part of your post. Then, you said yesterday that these demons were “false…[Read more]

Quote (4Thomas @ June 30 2013,19:18)Psalm 8:5 English Revised VersionFor thou hast made him but little lower than God, and crownest him with glory and honour.the greek Hebrew doesn't mention angels so the translation that say angels are incorrect.there isn't a single bible revision that says gods, what revision are you using?I'm not using a…[Read more]

Quote (4Thomas @ June 30 2013,19:18)Please explain this.Jeremiah 10:11 Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens.Jeremiah 10:11 NET © You people of Israel should tell those nations this: ‘These gods did not make heaven and earth. They wi…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 01 2013,04:28)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 17 2013,15:17)Are these beloved spirit sons of God “false gods”?  Are they only “so-called gods”?  Are they only “qualitatively gods”?Yes they are theos in a qualitative sense. Each is not a literal God.Deuteronomy 32:17They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to n…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 01 2013,04:20)In Greek they would be called The god if it were referring to a particular one.Jehovah is called “god” many times in the NT where there is no definite article written.  During those times, is He being called “qualitatively god”?

Quote (2besee @ July 01 2013,06:12)Mike and all, I am running out of phone data and so will not be posting as much in the next couple of weeks, but I will be looking closely at John chapter one and the first letter of John and will write up a side by side comparison, because I believe that the two go together.Grand idea.

Quote (2besee @ July 01 2013,05:29)Do you see how that has the word (logos) AND Jesus Christ?2B,The Greek word “logos” is simply one of their words for “word”. It refers to words that God has spoken, words that men have spoken, words that have been written down, words that have been shouted at another person, etc.It is also used as a title for…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,17:28)The problem comes in – when you try to BACK TRANSLATE words to Hebrew or Greek.Mike does this with the word “God”………..What are you talking about, Ed? The Hebrew word “elohim” is “FORWARD-translated” as “god” in English.How am I “BACK-translating” anything? Also, I read your answer that the demons were…[Read more]