LU: Sometimes the name Yahweh is representing the unity of the Father and the Son and has single first person pronouns and sometimes plural.

Can you give a scriptural example other than your understanding of Yahweh where a pair of persons is identified using singular masculine pronouns?

Gene and I are participating in a private thread right now – after years of talking past each other.  So far, it is working out great, as we are both willing participants trying to resolve our disagreements through respectful discourse.

Unfortunately, the same can’t be said for my private thread on “The Bible Vs Scientism” with Pretender.  As I p…[Read more]

Gene, I’m just bringing this one over from another thread, because it’s one of the many times I corner you and you just run away – only to return later spouting the same crap.  So it’s now a part of this thread, and we can hopefully get to your answer in due time.

Notice the date of my post.  This is what I mean.  This question would have ju…[Read more]

Genesis 2:4… This is the account of the heaven and the earth when they were created, when the LORD God made the earth and the heaven.

My question is simple…
CARMEL, IS GEN 2:4 SPEAKING OF TWO DIFFERENT HEAVENS AND EARTHS?  YES OR NO PLEASE?
If NO, then your entire “created” vs “made” argument is debunked, right?

Carmel, I’m also waiting for yo…[Read more]

That’s fantastic, Kathi!  You’ll see me there soon.

Berean:  In fact it is Satan who is behind these Egyptian gods that the magicians have made for themselves.
The REAL fight IS BETWEEN CHRIST AND SATAN.

While it’s true that Satan is one of the many other gods in the Bible, and is even the leader of the gods who rebelled against Yahweh, each of the gods that Satan is the leader of has their own…[Read more]

Kathi, since you’re back posting again… just a reminder that there are two threads (one private and one public) dedicated to your “Yahweh Unity” doctrine.  Of course, those dedicated threads won’t allow you to just keep making the same vague and baseless assertions and running from scrutiny across many threads like you’ve done for years here,…[Read more]

Gene:  I never hid from any question i was ask here on HN, that i know of anyway.

Okay.  I guess this private thread will allow us to really get to the bottom of a lot of our disagreements then.

Gene:  And by the way why should i not be saying the same thing over and over , does the truth change ?,  No,  the truth always stays the same no matt…

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Mike:  Gene, did Yahweh call beings other than Himself gods in Ps 82?  YES or NO?

 

Gene: Mike , yes,  he did, why? Because the word God/god,  is not a person, he or she or it, is a (concieved) being. 

So then if Yahweh called other beings gods, as you’ve agreed, it means Yahweh “conceived of” these beings as gods.  Otherwise He wouldn’t h…[Read more]

Gene:  my next  question to you is,   does changing the word God to a  upper case or lower case lettering change anything about what the word God means? Yes or no please.

NO.

Mike:  Gene, did Yahweh call beings other than Himself gods in Ps 82?  YES or NO?

Gene:  Mike , yes,  he did…

So if Yahweh Himself called other beings gods, then Yahweh Himself is acknowledging that these other beings ARE gods, right?  And since that is clearly the case, when Yahweh claims to be the “only” god, He can’t possibly mean that LIT…[Read more]

Gene:  Mike…….Seening you haven’t or can’t  responded to the above question… 

Mike, where is your answers ?, now who is running away and hiding like a little gril?

Whoa… slow down their killer.  😂  Gene, in case you haven’t noticed, I usually only post on Saturdays and Sundays, because I’m normally working long hours during the week, and do…[Read more]

Berean:  Mike,  Pharaoh’s priests were instruments of Satan, but God put limits on them. They could not imitate ALL the miracles that the true God YHWH produced by MOSES and Aaron.

Close enough.  But the point is that these gods of Egypt were real, living gods, and they performed great signs and wonders through their priests up to the limit that…[Read more]

Adam:  Hi Mike, I like the method of your analytic replies. 

Thank you.

Adam:  Yes Bible is full multiple gods of nations and Yahweh, the one God of Israelites.

Yahweh is the Creator of everything, including those gods of the other nations.  When Yahweh saw that the gods (Watchers) He appointed over the various nations to teach them the path of…[Read more]

Gene:  So now my first question to you is this,  What does the word God mean to you Mike?

Hi Gene, here is what the word god means to me…

#1 describes Yahweh.  #2 describes the Holy Spirit.  And 3# describes the many other gods in the Bible.

But let’s go back to my question…

Gene:  No,  Jesus never acknowledge the existences of other…

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Danny: The gods of Egypt could be either just idols or demons.

Well they can’t be idols.  How exactly would Yahweh “bring judgment” upon inanimate objects? Plus consider that Pharaoh’s priests were able to match the first three signs that Moses did (staff to snakes, water to blood, frogs).  Inanimate objects can’t do those things, nor can men.  It…[Read more]

Adam:  Yes, the Hebrew Bible stresses Yahweh’s primacy, while recognizing the occurrence of other gods…

This is the case all throughout the Bible – and teaching people to accept this undeniable scriptural truth instead of being afraid of it is the reason I began this thread.

Adam:  The presence of these other gods is necessary to uphold Yah…

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Adam:  Book of Enoch is only a Apocryphal book and written much later and beyond the Hebrew Canon. So the so called Watchers as you mentioned is another later interpretation of the Torah.

Prove it.  Put up or shut up.

Adam:  During the time of the two kingdoms, Yahweh was consistently associated with a female deity, Asherah.  Together, the divine couple was the main source of animal, agricultural and human abundance. 

That is a very misleading statement, as it implies that the Bible itself associates Yahweh and Asherah as “co-gods”.  The Bible does no such thi…[Read more]

Adam:  A small number of texts, found primarily in the prophetic books, assert that Yahweh is the only god who exists and is to be worshipped by all nations, but these are a minority; the majority of texts impose the strict worship of Yahweh alone on Israel but seem to acknowledge that other deities exist and can be legitimately worshipped by…

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