Quote (jammin @ Aug. 14 2013,18:44)i believe the Word is the logos of God and that logos is the Christ. rev 19.13you believe not the whole truthAnd that's the sad part about Kerwin's belief.  He's smart enough to know that the “logos” in Rev 19 IS Jesus.But because he doesn't personally WANT Jesus to have pre-existed his fleshly manifestation, he…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 13 2013,22:21)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 14 2013,06:42)Kerwin,Our heavenly masters are not only master of our spirits, but masters of all of us – including our physical bodies.  End of story.Mike,So how does that go with the authorities Scriptures state are our masters according to the flesh.God and Jesus are the authorities…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 13 2013,22:18)Mike,The manner is his flesh.The Pharisees EXPECTED the Messiah to be flesh, Kerwin. So “flesh” is not the correct answer to Jesus' question. In fact, you're not even in the ballpark.Perhaps you should copy your friends the Pharisees, and just remain silent like they did.

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 14 2013,17:10)Mike would be Pilate, reasonable, unsure, not wanting the blood on his hands, try to avoid it but in the end……a cave in. Colter, I can only believe what I read in the scriptures. And the scriptures teach of one God and Creator of all things………… and his servant who was sent into the world.So that's…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 14 2013,14:49)THE DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY,IS *PROOF* THAT THE MYSTERY HAS NOT BEEN REVEALED TO THEM.It's also proof that the UB is flawed……… because it seems to also support the nonsensical notion of a triune Godhead.We have one God, the Father. Jesus is the Son of that one God – not another person within the same being.

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 14 2013,18:28)Because we are students we seek to understand what this means. Because you are brainwashed you pass this off as something we made up, when you can clearly read it in the bible. Why don't you try that first before accusing us?Amen!

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 13 2013,19:33)You should see sometimes when a Christian is telling someone to accept Jesus or the person is going to hell and then you ask “what about the Jews?” Most will go blank.Romans 1124 After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2013,12:51)If Jesus did not promote and teach fasting then why would he give instruction on fasting?Matthew 193 Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 13 2013,19:09)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 14 2013,12:00)What human being, now or back then, can literally turn a wooden staff into a living snake?No human being in his own power can literally turn a wooden staff into a living snake.  Now we're getting somewhere.  Quote (942767 @ Aug. 13 2013,19:09)God gave Moses the power to do t…[Read more]

Okay Keith, You didn't answer the last two posts on page 1, but that's okay. I want to keep this discussion focused anyway.Right now, the first scripture was brought up by Kathi, so let's finish with that scripture.What we do know is that demons were called gods by Moses.And since Moses gave no indication that these demons were “false gods” or…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 13 2013,12:20)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 12 2013,19:23)Deuteronomy 32:17 They sacrificed to demons, not God, to gods they had not known; to new gods who had recently come along, gods your ancestors had not known about.I have yet to find a commentator who says “that were no gods”, Keith.  All commentators, including…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 12 2013,20:41)Hi Mike:They did the same things:“by their secret arts”.Yep.  So I ask you again:  What human being, now or back then, can literally turn a wooden staff into a living snake?Please answer this time, Marty.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 13 2013,11:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 12 2013,19:09)And wouldn't we include the person who actually wrote that down for us as “important to our salvation”? Only because Jesus chose him to bring the message.You seem to have arrived at my point all by yourself, Keith.What was “the great commission”?  Could any of…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 13 2013,01:11)Is is better to have a spirit that is mastered by God or by man?Kerwin,Our heavenly masters are not only master of our spirits, but masters of all of us – including our physical bodies. End of story.

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 12 2013,20:59)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 13 2013,08:18)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 11 2013,22:30)Mike,The only error the Pharisees made was an incomplete answer as Paul answers Jesus words by stating Jesus is made from the seed of David, according to the flesh.Their answer:  The son of David.Jesus rebuttal:  How CAN he be David's son i…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 13 2013,13:36)There is but one true Lord.Are the other lords false?I'll take that point a step farther:The same writer that said, for us there is but one God, the Father also said, and one Lord, Jesus Christ.Is Jesus Christ REALLY the ONLY Lord we as Christians have?  YES or NO?The only HONEST answer is “NO”.Let that soak in…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 13 2013,13:40)And so, you and your buddy Mike can believe whatever you want.We'll just keep believing the scriptures as they were actually written.

Quote (2besee @ Aug. 12 2013,20:59)Capping the letter or not capping the letter makes no difference.Exodus 20:3 King James Version Thou shalt have no other gods before me.2B, are you able to tell us why the English translators have a small “g” there, instead of a capped “G”?And are you able to find any English translation that does cap the “G” in…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 11 2013,22:30)Mike,The only error the Pharisees made was an incomplete answer as Paul answers Jesus words by stating Jesus is made from the seed of David, according to the flesh.Their answer: The son of David.Jesus rebuttal: How CAN he be David's son if David himself calls him “My Lord”?And you see an “agreement” there…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 11 2013,22:52)Our masters can only destroy the body, not the soul or the spirit.Our heavenly masters CAN destroy all of those things.You said our heavenly lords are only masters of our spirits, while earthly lords are masters of our physical bodies.I was pointing out that our heavenly lords are not only masters of our spirits,…[Read more]