Quote (942767 @ Aug. 15 2013,17:33)This is the scripture and not my opinion:Quote 1Ti 2:5 For one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus This is the scripture and not my opinion:As indeed there are many gods and many lords.

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 15 2013,14:58)1 Chronicles 1625For great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised;  He also is to be feared above all gods.How can Jehovah be feared ABOVE the OTHER gods if He is literally the ONLY one?   I really want to hear an answer to this question from somebody.Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 15 2013,14:58)26For all the g…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2013,15:48)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 15 2013,15:45)We certainly have reason to believe that all other gods besides the Father and Son are false gods, Mike:Well done Kathi… David, are you paying attention here?Kathi and Keith are about to go through each of the scriptures Kathi listed to see if any of them REALLY…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2013,10:24)Nevertheless you still haven't produced any Biblical evidence of these so-called gods who performed miraculous acts. The Magicians of Egypt does not work for you. Even David explains about the snakes and their trickery.So the priests of Pharaoh were really holding snakes in a way which paralyzed them,…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2013,10:24)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 14 2013,21:08)Or the same way I could call Jehovah “the only true Savior” without implying that Jesus and others were “false” saviors.Really?What does the word “ONLY” mean Mike?The same thing as “there is no savior besides me”. Yet there DID exist other saviors, right Keith?

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2013,09:58)Then our President who is the most powerful man in the world is “a god” according to Mike and t8's theology.None of these things are “according to Mike and t8's theology”, Keith.  We are only quoting scriptures for you, and asking you why you don't believe those scriptures.I know that “theos” never…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2013,09:40)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 13 2013,20:12)What we do know is that demons were called gods by Moses.So what Mike?Now add the fact that Moses was only singing the song JEHOVAH taught him. So it was really JEHOVAH who called those demons gods, right?

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2013,09:03)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 13 2013,20:07)He goes on to say, as indeed there ARE many gods, both in heaven and on earth. No you left out part of it…For though there be that are called gods…. And many translations have it…For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth… NKJVI have no…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2013,09:03)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 13 2013,20:07)I have yet to find a commentator who says “that were no gods”, Keith.  All commentators, including Gill that Kathi just quoted, understand that these demons were gods, but not GOD.No Mike you should say…”Good.  We agree then that these demons WERE gods (to t…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Aug. 14 2013,20:54)So mike, who are the gods then, demons? (Bad angels)Yes David. In Deuteronomy 32:17, the gods they sacrificed to were demons, not God.

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 14 2013,19:39)Jammin,So you believe “the word” in scripture should be translated the Christ.That's a silly argument, Kerwin. 99% of the time, “word” simply refers to a spoken or written word in scripture.It is only a few times that it refers to the main spokesman of God.So go ahead and translate only those few times as…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 14 2013,20:15)But because Jesus is himself a God it's not appropriate to say he has a God, for he and God are indistinguishable.Indistinguishable, yet one is “Father” and the other is “Son”.Colter, how do you suppose God expected us human beings to understand the terms “father” and “son”?

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 14 2013,19:26)Fair enough, I just completely disagree with your depiction of the identity of Jesus as a man.Jesus is no longer a human being, Colter. He is, in Biblical terminology, a god. (Many spirit sons of God are called gods in scripture.)It's just that he is not the MOST HIGH god. Instead, he is the SON of that One.

Quote (david @ Aug. 13 2013,22:56)We should use the word idolaters then.And since none of us believe man-made IDOLS are gods of any kind, “idolater” is also a misnomer. So let's do what David suggested, and keep the name-calling out of this. Let's instead focus ONLY on what the scriptures actually DO say on the subject at hand.

Quote (abe @ Aug. 13 2013,23:57)Is.45:5   “I am the LORD, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God. I will gird you, though you have not known Me;Speaking of which…………..Isaiah 43:11 KJVI, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour.What do you do with a verse like that, Abe?  How do you reconcile those words against v…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Aug. 13 2013,20:08)Quote How can you and t8 claim “There is only One True God and yet claim there are other True Gods?–wjThe same way I claim that George, my life long friend, who I've known for decades, is my only TRUE friend, despite my other friends not being “false” friends.Or the same way I could call Jehovah “the only true…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 13 2013,20:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 14 2013,12:23)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 13 2013,19:09)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 14 2013,12:00)What human being, now or back then, can literally turn a wooden staff into a living snake?No human being in his own power can literally turn a wooden staff into a living snake.  Now we're getting…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Aug. 13 2013,20:52)This is only so that your can justify John 1:1 as being two Gods, rather than one God.Oh, I KNOW it is about two gods.  Any idiot can see that from the words “the Word was WITH God”.Even the 25 TRINITARIAN scholars of NETNotes say:The construction in John 1:1c does NOT equate the Word with the person of God (this…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 14 2013,18:48)You don't understand the Trinity of the UB, if you took the time to you would see that They are all one in divinity. So you are left with a temporary man God, that's why the Jews think you are an idiot.The Catholic trinity is the same. “They are three, but one in divinity” – whatever the freak that means. BTW,…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 14 2013,18:51)That's why I think you would have rejected Jesus as a Jew because you can't get your head out of your indoctrination from the fetish of the scripture. You simply cannot get honest.John 20:17I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.Jesus and I have the same exact one and only God,…[Read more]