Quote (Colter @ Aug. 18 2013,21:18)Jesus is answering the blasphemy charge, he's not denying that he is in fact the Son of God.Nor do we deny it.

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 18 2013,20:38)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 19 2013,15:57)My family is fine thank you……….Great, I am glad he is okay.

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 18 2013,19:31)The lame reasoning of the anti-pre existence, anti-divinity, anti-Jesus is a God crowd, imply that EVERYONE has misunderstood Jesus, his enemies who heard him, the Sanhedrin spies who followed him, the apostles and countless Christians, theologians and martyrs. Only a small group of overanylizing intellectuals…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 18 2013,12:28)Jesus was being literal there are no other gods that are actually God. The difference is this, you said Jesuswas referred to as a god in at least 4 instances right? but the fact is Jesus says:John 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that…[Read more]

You mean aside from the obvious fact that a flesh human being has no place in the spiritual realm of heaven and could not possibly sit right beside God who dwells in unapproachable light? How about “no man has seen God at anytime”? These words were written twice by John years AFTER Jesus was exalted to heaven.(And yes, I know that you'll point…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 17 2013,14:57)Mike,We do seem to agree on the whole but you seem to stress mighty as the meaning of elohim.The Strong definition is “might(y one)”, Kerwin. I accept that definition as accurate. You can either agree with Strong or disagree. It makes no difference to me as I DO agree with him in this case.Most scholars also…[Read more]

The words “goddess” and “god” are all Strong's #430 in 1 Kings 11:33, Kathi. #430 is the plural form “elohim”.  The G/K equivalent is #H466, and confirms that the plural form “elohim” is used of all three gods mentioned in that verse.  The G/K definition says:  plural in form, but singular in meaning, with a focus on great power.  You can eas…[Read more]

Wonderful words, Wakeup!Thank you for the encouragement and the reminder to keep our eyes on the prize at any cost.

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 18 2013,02:10)Pierre,Jehovah is both God of gods and Lord of lords…God, our Father and Lord Jesus Christ.But wait!  Jehovah is not only the God of gods and Lord of lords, but also the King of kings!  So now we have the Father, the Son, Artaxerxes, and Nebuchadnezzar!  What a happy little quadrinity!  In reality, Kat…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 17 2013,20:47)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 15 2013,20:06)The Hebrew says “worthless”, not “idols”.Mike,The Septuagint has the word for false gods.Like I said, the ORIGINAL HEBREW says “worthless”, not “idols”.Have you been able to find the phrase “false gods” in the original texts of any of those many scriptures you posted yet?

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 17 2013,20:34)Mike,Quote So I can't figure out if your posts here reflect your desire to be AGAINST me at any cost, or your desire to cozy up to Keith at any cost.  Perhaps a little of both? Neither. You should know better.Kathi, why did you link the “Divine Counsel” site for Keith in that other thread? What did you hope…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 17 2013,20:30)Mike,Quote Kathi, do you believe that Jehovah the Father is LITERALLY the only elohim in existence?  YES or NO?)Read my signature and you will find your answer there.You know t8 and I do this on purpose, right?  You realize that we get a kick out of watching you squirm and find just the right words so you d…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 17 2013,20:00)People make things/people gods but they are merely worthless objects of worship. Many people have objects of worship, but it is in vain.Yep.  People surely have made idols and called them their gods.  But look at the excerpt of Job that I just posted for Keith.  Shall we fear Jehovah above the god Satan?  Y…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 18 2013,03:23)Jesus is Jehovah of host, that is why He is AlmightyJesus is the Son of Jehovah of hosts.  That is why he is the Son of the Almighty.One of our claims is scriptural, Kathi.  They can't both be.Back to the topic:  Has anyone who likes the translation “and the Word was God” been able to figure out how the one be…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 18 2013,00:47)John 6:70 (AKJV)Then Jesus replied, “Have I not chosen you, the Twelve? Yet one of you is a devil!”John 6:70 (EJV = Ed J Version)Jesus answered them, I quite a exelexamin upon you the twelve, and of you to present devil What does “exelexamin ” mean?It's kind of fun to pit Ed's current claims against his ong…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 18 2013,06:17)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 18 2013,14:43) When someone talks of your family do they use the word HE?No they don't. But to justify the Trinity and to make it fit the God of the Bible who is referred to has HE/HIM, Trinitarians invent this new ridiculous and unique concept where 3 persons are HE and your Urantia Religion…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 17 2013,11:58)We are asked to trust him even though the higher things of God are difficult to “conceptualize” and understand. The Urantia papers are an attempt to explain more at this time of impending world crisis.I do trust Jesus, Colter.  I trust him when he says he is the Son OF God.  I and Jesus both know how human b…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 17 2013,16:51)We all know that any reference to “gods” were false which is why Jesus says:John 17:3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.The gods in Gen 3:5 (also the “one of us” in 3:22) are the spirit sons of Jehovah – the ones we commonly call “angels”.…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 15 2013,22:22)The Koine Greek word theos does not mean mighty one and the NT was in Greek.“Koine” only means “common” – as in the dialect spoken by the common man.  For example, Shakespeare spoke “proper English”, while most Americans today can be said to speak “koine English”…….. ie:  “the English of the common man”.But w…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 16 2013,01:25)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 16 2013,13:24)Is it your claim that God used “father” and “son” to confuse us?  And only certain “special” people can see past the words and their generally accepted meanings, allowing only those few to understand the “real” meaning that this particular “father” and “son” were in fact…[Read more]