Gene: Mike, he certanly was not saying they were real God’s , why, because that would make him a liar, and we are told our God , does not lie.

Here is the quote from Ps 82…  “You are gods, all of you sons of the Most High, but you will die like men.”

I hear your claim above, and now I want you to present your scriptural evidence that when Yahweh…[Read more]

Gene, you are pontificating again – instead of DIRECTLY addressing my points.  And what’s worse, you are making false claims about me in the middle of your pontification.  When did I ever say “all humans are Gods”?

Now please go back to the previous page and DIRECTLY address my posts from yesterday.  They are the last 4 posts on the previous pa…[Read more]

Carmel:  SUBJECT ONLY TO GOD’S OWN WAYS  AND DAYS, WHICH ARE NOT LIKE HUMAN WAYS AND DAYS NO!

The plural word “days” ALWAYS refers to literal HUMAN/EARTH/SUN days in the Bible (and in the history of the earth in general).  Prove me wrong using scriptural examples.

You CLAIM that the six days of creation are something other than literal huma…[Read more]

Carmel: Now you suggested moving the comma, IRONICALLY, after the word, 

“DAY” SIMPLY TO PLEASE YOUR CORRUPTED WISDOM OF THE WORLD AND IGNORE 

THE TRUTH OF GOD!

How could I suggest MOVING a comma that wasn’t even there in the Greek text?  What I suggest is that the English translators who INSERTED a comma that wasn’t there inserted it at the wro…[Read more]

Pretender:  Should be one question… 

So you’ve gotten tired of not giving people smart-ass quips around here – but still aren’t man enough to follow your own rules and answer some very easy questions, huh?  😂🤣  I knew that would happen.  You tried to post a few things on lesser-viewed topics to stay hidden, but missed the “greater than thou…[Read more]

My MUST ANSWER question…
PROCLAIMER, DOES THE PLURAL WORD “DAYS” EVER REFER TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN LITERAL DAYS IN THE BIBLE?  YES OR NO?  AND IF YES, SHOW THE SCRIPTURE(S), including their clear and undeniable indication that the “days” in question are, without a doubt, not literal days.

Pretender:  In Genesis 2:4,  how many days does it say took place for God to create the heaven and earth, and how many hours does that equal?
 
Mike:  Gen 2:4 doesn’t mention a specific number of days, but instead uses the common idiom “in the day”, which intentionally refers to a general, unspecified time period.  The second part of the question…[Read more]

LU: Mike,

The word “god” is an idea, a position, not a being. It is a position that can be assigned or a position that is inherently assumed. In the case of the Father and son, it is inherently assumed since they are of eternal essence and before all things.

Not only is that statement inaccurate, it is nothing but a bunch of word salad you’…[Read more]

LU: <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>The passage in Zechariah is tied to Jesus as the one who is valued as 30 pieces of silver which ends up buying the Potter’s Field by the writers of the NT, not me. And the one who is valued at 30 pieces of silver is Yahweh in Zechariah and Jesus in the NT.</span>

Actually, it’s tied to Jeremiah in the NT – not Ze…[Read more]

Pretender:  Flat earth is seriously one of the funniest arguments I have ever heard. It’s the bottom of the barrel for conspiracy theories. It is totally baffling how stupid some people can be.

Who’s that?  Pretender finally crawled out from the rock he’s been hiding under to try to steer attention away from his humiliating ongoing defeat in the…[Read more]

Gene:  I deffenitly believe the earth “came to be”,  tohu and bohu,  void and corupted, the key word in Gen 1:2,  is the word “was” that word means it “came to be” that…

For Gene, the key is the word “was”, that apparently means “came to be” in Gen 1:2… but most definitely DOESN’T mean “came to be” in John 1:1!  😁

Thank God we now have our p…[Read more]

Carmel: BY THE WAY, ON PAGE 92 I ASKED YOU:

FIND A SCRIPTURE THAT MAKES USE OF THE WORDS

TOHU VA BOHU AND IT IS NOT A REFERENCE TO

CONFUSION, CHAOS, WASTE, AND A NEGATIVE STATE OR REFERENCE!

SO, ARE YOU STILL SEARCHING? 

I already addressed it in great detail, using YOUR OWN source!  He points out that the LXX says the earth was “empty and…[Read more]

Mike:  So according to you, Yahweh HAD TO use the plural “days”, right? 

 

Carmel: WRONG AGAIN! FROM YAHWEH’S PERSPECTIVE!

I see.  So although your argument has been thoroughly defeated, you think you can just insert “from Yahweh’s perspective” and make everything okay?

As if YOU have any inkling of how Yahweh perceived the DAYS of rebuildi…[Read more]

Gene:  I can’t understand why Mike who seems so intellegent,  can’t come to understand that,  even with the ISS, giving us 24/7  coverage of it.  Now that’s a mystery to me.

We’re currently in the process of unraveling a bunch of mysteries in our private thread, Gene.  I’m sure we’ll eventually get to this one too. 😎

Carmel: According to Google fight,

back in the days seems more popular:

1,800,000,000 against 584,000,000.

OK, Mike “back in the days” is more popular by THREE TIMES AS MUCH!

I see 584 MILLION votes for “back in the day”, Carmel.  So your claim that Jesus (or whoever) MUST use “days” instead of “day” is baseless.  The fact that more people p…[Read more]

Carmel: So when God refers to “days,” does he want us to mentally substitute the word “eons” or “ages”? No.

Does he want us to think of precise units of time, marked by 24 exact hours as the earth makes a rotation on its axis? No.

Does he want us to think of the Hebrew workday? Yes, AS YOU SAID, 

BUT in an analogical and anthropomorphic…

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Carmel wrote…

You answered:  “NOT PRECISELY”, and then tried to go down yet another irrelevant tangent about how it means something different when heaven is mentioned before earth than it means when earth is mentioned before heaven.  No more tangents until you elaborate on your “NOT PRECISELY” answer.

Why exactly DOESN’T the following d…[Read more]

Mike:  I guess I’m asking if you truly believe that the wording in this passage offers support for a “Yahweh Unity” – a singular living being comprised of multiple persons.

 

LU:  Hi Mike,

Where did I say that a Yahweh Unity is “a singular living being” comprised of multiple persons?

 

Mike:  Wait, are you saying that Yahweh the Father and “…

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Danny: Hi LU,

You started a very good thread.
According to Psalm 2:2 and Acts 4:26 Yahweh is the Father
of Jesus Christ.
How can Yahweh be a unity of Father and Son, if Yahweh is the Father
of Jesus Christ?

 

LU:  Look in this verse which seems to be Yahweh as the Son:

Zech11:13 Yahweh said to me, “Throw it to the potter, the handsome price t…

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Mike: But they ARE two different gods, right? Because if the father is a god and the son is a god, and they are two different individual beings, then there is no other option except for them to be two different individual gods, right?

Whether they act in unison (united in purpose) or not, they’d still be two completely different individual go…

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