Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 24 2013,18:28)Mike, God does make his messengers wind and his servants flames of fire.And which one of those two things consist of flesh, Kerwin? Wind? Or fire?

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 25 2013,00:08)Mike,Living by the Spirit of God he did not see equality with God as something to be grasped but emptied himself and took on the form of a servant.There is no preexistence there though it has the same “but” you speak of.  Now let's try it with Paul's actual words:Existing in the form of God, he didn't grasp for…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 24 2013,21:16)Quote (jammin @ Sep. 25 2013,13:54)not yet done??kerwin why cant you accept that the word in john 1.1 is christ? may GOD open your eyesThat's true jammin.But let's refine that statement.The Word came down to earth and was made flesh,and he was called Jesus.wakeup.What you and jammin both stated is true,…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 24 2013,18:17)Quote According to Phil 2 and other scriptures, Jesus Christ was existing with God in the beginning, then was made flesh and dwelled on earth with the glory of God's only begotten Son.That is not what I hear from Philippians 2.Okay. Why not hurry up and answer the 8th post on page 988 for me, and then we can…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 24 2013,18:17)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)5. All things were made through the personified “logos” of John 1.All things were made through Jesus – according to at least three other scriptures.John 1:3 is literaly true as the whole story of creation reveals it was made by God's Word. That idea is echoed in other passages.So your…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 24 2013,18:17)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)3. The personified “logos” of John 1 is closely associated with “light”.Jesus Christ is the “light” that came into the world.4. The personified “logos” of John 1 was testified about by John the Baptist.Jesus Christ is the sole person John the Baptist was sent to testify about.I agree with…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 24 2013,18:17)Mike,Quote (mikeboll @ 64)1.  The word “logos” is personified in John 1:1.  That same word “logos” is personified by the same author in Revelation 19:13.  In the latter, the “logos” is personified as Jesus Christ.2.  The personified “logos” of John 1 was with God in the beginning, then was made flesh and dwe…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 24 2013,18:28)Angels are do have the ministering “inner quality or nature”Does it say angels ARE ministering spirits? Or angels HAVE ministering spirits?Kerwin, I'm done with this nonsense. If you want to think angels have flesh in heaven, then I'll just roll my eyes and leave you to it.

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Quote (942767 @ Sep. 22 2013,14:22)Ok., Mike, I am wrong and you are right…………Quote (jb2u @ Sep. 24 2013,14:43)You are always right Mike.I'm saving those!      

Quote (jb2u @ Sep. 24 2013,14:04)Paul either said “existing” or “was existing”. He did not say both.If Marty and Kerwin “acknowledged that” Paul states Jesus WAS existing in the form of God..then they are wrong, too.John 14:9Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time?”Jesus actually said, “even…[Read more]

Quote (jb2u @ Sep. 24 2013,13:59)It says no man has seen God EXCEPT Jesus!!No it doesn't. Jesus, as a man, said he HAD seen God. Yet we know from many scriptures that no man has EVER seen God.That means Jesus didn't see God while he was a man.

Quote (jb2u @ Sep. 24 2013,13:44)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 23 2013,06:34)The teaching in Phil 2 is that we also be willing to sacrifice the good life we have to do God's will by helping others.And.. at what point did Jesus empty Himself and become a servant? When did He leave His home of 30 years? When did He stop being a carpenter? When did He…[Read more]

Quote (jb2u @ Sep. 24 2013,13:39)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 23 2013,06:22)When Elijah returns, WILL IT BE A CASE OF SOMEONE WHO HAD ALREADY EXISTED WITH GOD IN HEAVEN BEING SENT TO EXIST ON THE EARTH?  YES or NO?I am not playing with words.Yes you are. Does Elijah exist ON EARTH right now? YES or NO?

Quote (jb2u @ Sep. 24 2013,13:34)This is the problem. You do not even recognize that Jesus at all points was still in the “form of God.”The problem is that you don't recognize Paul was making a huge CONTRAST between the form of God and the form of a slave in this case.

Quote (jb2u @ Sep. 24 2013,13:01)It doesn't say directly what He emptied Himself of, BUT we know it was in order to take on the role of a servant.And do you agree with t8's logical point that the most likely thing he emptied himself of is the thing immediately aforementioned?For example: Clark Kent, although existing in the form of Superman,…[Read more]

Quote (jb2u @ Sep. 24 2013,12:56)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 23 2013,03:28)Does the fact that Obama WAS President WHEN he came under scrutiny say ANYTHING AT ALL about whether or not he is STILL the President to this very day?   YES or NO?Of course, the answer to your question is NO, but again that does not change the FACT that Paul says “existing”…[Read more]

Kerwin,I REALLY want you to address the 8th and 9th post on page 988.Show me from scripture where I'm wrong on any of my proofs.

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 24 2013,17:19)……for a spirit hath not flesh……..Hebrews 1:7 In speaking of the angels he says, “He makes his angels spirits, and his servants flames of fire.”Hebrews 1:14 Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?Angels are spirits (spirit beings). And spirits don't have flesh.

Quote (942767 @ Sep. 23 2013,19:42)Actually, Mike, going back and reading the scripture, 1:18, and looking at the various translations, Jesus did not say that he had seen God.Try John 6:46.