Agreed.  Kerwin is a mellow fellow.  Maybe he smokes pot before he posts.  That would explain some of the crazy things he claims.  journey, you are right that 1 Cor 15:44 is a very powerful scripture…….. and says NOTHING about any “spiritual FLESH”.And Wakeup has quoted 1 Cor 15:50, which should end the discussion once and for all.  I mean…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 26 2013,17:55)Hi Mike.How can I practise without it getting posted.There are a couple of “Test” threads here. Go to a test thread, and try quoting just a few things from one of the posts already there – responding to each thing separately.Do that, and if it turns out funky, I'll be able to see what needs tweaked.

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 26 2013,17:27)Quote (942767 @ Sep. 27 2013,03:48)Hi Wakeup:…….and so, if Jesus is the Word in John 1c, then what I am asking you is the following question:  Is Jesus God?Marty.In the *BEGINNING WAS* the Word,and the Word was *WITH* Jehovah.And the Word *WAS* Jehovah.Why *WAS* jehovah? Why BEGINNING?Because before JEHOVAH…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 25 2013,22:00)The other option which is the one you use I think, is to copy that which you want to directly reply to, then quote the post, and then paste over all the text in the quoted text box.That way it automatically includes the author of the quote and only the relevant part of the quote.I do that if I'm only going to respond…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 25 2013,22:13)Thank you mike,it looks good.Need to practise.

Quote (942767 @ Sep. 26 2013,10:58)Mike, you apparently do not know the extent of what Jesus had to suffer in our behalf. I don't mean to belittle Jesus' suffering, Marty.  But I know that MANY disciples have suffered way worse deaths than he did.The difference is that they were all going to die anyway – at some point.  Jesus, on the other hand, w…[Read more]

If you use definition 2, 3, or both, then Jesus can't say he is the ONLY one who has “seen” God.What about Moses, the man of God who spoke to God on a “face to face” basis?What about Melchizadek?What about Elijah, or Enoch?  Or Samuel?  Or David? What about Abraham, the only human God ever called “friend”?So if we use definition #1 – “to see w…[Read more]

Quote (4Thomas @ Sep. 19 2013,01:08)1. Is Jesus your God, is it ok for you to call him “my Lord and my God”2. Is it ok also to call the Father my Lord?1. I personally wouldn't do that.2. Yes, the Father is the Lord of heaven and earth. We can call Him “Lord”.

Quote (4Thomas @ Sep. 19 2013,01:08)Question, we know Satan is called THE God of this World in scripture but surely you would NOT call him or any other angel (fallen or not) your God?No.My understanding echoes Paul's statement in 1 Cor 8:5-6. I readily acknowledge the existence of other gods, because the Bible teaches that there are indeed many…[Read more]

Quote (4Thomas @ Sep. 17 2013,18:49)Had a miracle happen last night.I'm so thankful that the little girl is well, praise God and to him be the glory.Amen Daniel! All praise to God.

Yeah, I hate that too. If you're only addressing the LAST thing the other guy posted, then why keep posting the entire conversation that's gone on for two months? Only quote the parts of his LAST post to which you want to respond.In Wakeup's case, he was indeed directly responding to several points Marty made. So the way he did it was good -…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 25 2013,20:17)Wow: you have discovered this deep mystery;that the entire world could not put their finger to it.May God bless you Mike. And you, Wakeup.

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 25 2013,20:10)By His Word also created *He* all things.You know that the KJV's “by” is just another word that means “through”, right?As in: The letter came BY mail versus The letter came THROUGH the mail.So when your KJV says all things were created BY the Word, they really mean that all things were created BY God, but…[Read more]

Hi Wakeup,Instead of writing the word “QUOTE”, and then putting Marty's quote underneath, why not just hit the “Quote” button above your post box?Hit it once, then copy and paste Marty's words behind it, then hit it a second time after his words.It will be easier for all of us to follow the discussion that way.  This is how your last post will…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 25 2013,15:31)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 25 2013,07:15)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 24 2013,18:28)Angels are do have the ministering “inner quality or nature”Does it say angels ARE ministering spirits?  Or angels HAVE ministering spirits?Kerwin, I'm done with this nonsense.  If you want to think angels have flesh in heaven, then I'll j…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 25 2013,15:17)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 25 2013,07:30)If the personified logos was “the true light that gives light to everyone”, and Jesus was “the light that has come into the world”, then what is so hard?If John the Baptist was sent to testify about none other than the personified logos, and John the Baptist was sent to…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 25 2013,14:50)Mike,In reading John 1:3 literally I am not starting a new teaching but merely rephrasing an old one.See my last post above.  Also, why wouldn't you also be rephrasing an old teaching if you chose to accept Col 1:16, 1 Cor 8:6, and Hebrews 1:2?

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 25 2013,14:25)Jammin,I read that God spoke his Word and there was light and so I have come to know light was created by God's Word.So then God's word IS an entity individual from God Himself? And God told His word to go and create light, and then this individual entity went and created light on his own?Kerwin, you are so…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 25 2013,05:04)What Kerwin is saying is true.(Jesus is the creator on Gods behalf).And what Jammin is saying is also true.(The Word is Jesus).wakeup.Whoa there Wakeup.  Scripture says that all things are FROM God and THROUGH Jesus.God, alone and by Himself, created all things.  It's just that He chose to do that THROUGH J…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Sep. 25 2013,00:12)Mike,I AGREE WITH YOU !ONLY JESUS CHRIST OWNS BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH BODY AS ONE SUBSTANCE, AND HE CAN MANIFEST HIMSELF IN ANY STATE HE PREFERS NO MATTER WHERE!When I read those first words, I knew it was too good to be true, Charles. It seems we agree that angels don't have flesh, but disagree about Jesus.Unlike…[Read more]