Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 01 2013,19:03)So according to you God did not mention such a thing to the Prophets and the Patriarchates who were expecting a human Messiah and not an angel one.Proverbs 8, for one.  Here is another:Micah 5:2 NIV“But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,    though you are small among the clans of Judah,out of you will come for me    one…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 01 2013,18:58)Mike,Quote I've never made any such claim.  You believe Adam was created as an immortal being, consisting of something called “spiritual flesh”.  All I've done is tell you that if scripture is silent about it, so should you be.I see, you believe a body that does not die is mortal.  Try something else as that do…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 01 2013,18:02)Either this creature that you believe in was turned into flesh or he came in the flesh not both.  Make up your mind.  Kerwin, if God chose to cause Michael the archangel to be conceived in the womb of a human woman tomorrow, could we later say about Michael:1.  He was turned into flesh?  YES or NO?2.  He beca…[Read more]

Quote (jb2u @ Sep. 29 2013,09:47)2 Timothy 1:9Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began………..Luke 11:50That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be…[Read more]

Great answer, Pierre!

jammin,This post will be locked when it reaches 9,999 posts.  You might want to start a new “Who is the WORD – part 2″……… so your name stays with the topic you started.Very few threads get that many posts here.  You hit on a pretty hot topic with this one.  

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 30 2013,19:43) …you believe in this creature that is not testified as being part of the creation in the OT, who you say was transformed to a human being, is the same person who came in the flesh.Can you show me where I've contradicted myself?Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 30 2013,19:43)You also claim death was in the world before it…[Read more]

Hi Marty,1 Corinthians 12:3 ……that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed……But also consider the NETNotes on this following verse:Deuteronomy 21:23His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day; (for he that is hanged is accursed of God;) that thy land be not defiled,…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 01 2013,03:36)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 01 2013,11:52)Wakeup,If he is the Word OF God, and can be WITH God, then he is not actually God Himself.To me, this is simple God-given common sense.True:Because we and the angels are commanded to worshiphim; Does not make him Jehovah.You're confusing me, Wakeup. Do you believe the Word…[Read more]

Wakeup,If he is the Word OF God, and can be WITH God, then he is not actually God Himself.To me, this is simple God-given common sense.

Quote (942767 @ Sep. 30 2013,17:23)Hi Mike:You made a mistake once?The following scripture states that “God loosed the pains of death”, but he died on the cross, and suffered all this, and so, what pains were loosed?I've made many mistakes, Marty.As for your point that Jesus suffered pain on the stake, what does that have to do with God FORSAKING…[Read more]

Quote (jb2u @ Sep. 29 2013,09:47)The glory that Jesus had existed WITH GOD. Now, I am not “just saying that.” I get my understanding from the fact that Jesus NEVER says “give me BACK the glory..”. Would it not make more sense for Him to say that, IF He in fact DID HAVE it in the beginning Himself? PLEASE ANSWER!! You mean like it would make more…[Read more]

Quote (jb2u @ Sep. 29 2013,08:31)Here is your FIRST mistake!!Yes “running” is present tense, BUT “saw”, which is THE VERB is in past tense!!Far from being my “mistake”, it is EXACTLY what I'VE been trying to show YOU all this time!  “Existing” is present tense, BUT “did not consider”, “grasped”, “emptied”, “took”, and “made”, which are THE VERBS,…[Read more]

Quote (jb2u @ Sep. 29 2013,07:52)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 29 2013,08:39)Quote (jb2u @ Sep. 27 2013,06:43)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 25 2013,11:40)Does Elijah exist ON EARTH right now?  YES or NO?No!!Does Elijah exist in heaven right now?  YES or NO?YES..I believe so.So then if Elijah right now exists in heaven, but is later caused to be born from t…[Read more]

Quote (jb2u @ Sep. 29 2013,07:51)Taking on the form of a slave..AS OPPOSED TO..”being equal with God”!!So in your mind, it doesn't make more sense that “morphe of God” is in contrast to “morphe of slave” – seeing that the same exact word is used in contrast?Interesting.

Quote (jb2u @ Sep. 29 2013,06:59)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 29 2013,04:22)Quote (jb2u @ Sep. 27 2013,06:29)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 25 2013,11:13)Okay.  Now tell me if there is a difference in MEANING between the following two statements:1.  Obama, although he was existing as the President of the U.S., came under scrutiny concerning his U.S. c…[Read more]

You can show a verse where angels will do obeisance to Jesus – like the Israelites bowed and did obeisance to King David.

I love that last quote. I've used the “earth is flat” analogy before to explain why people insist so vehemently that the trinity is scriptural……….. but I never could have worded it as wonderfully as he did.I've saved that one to Word, so I can whip it out later.

I love that last quote. I've used the “earth is flat” analogy before to explain why people insist so vehemently that the trinity is scriptural……….. but I never could have worded it as wonderfully as he did.I've saved that one to Word, so I can whip it out later.

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 28 2013,18:40)Mike.You and your word inside you is one/ one Mike.No Wakeup.Any time you can use the words “my”, “mine”, “of”, “his”, “hers” or an apostrophe-s, we are talking about a possession OF you, and not you yourself.For instance, “the Word OF God” is not God, but something God POSSESSES.  Hence the word “OF”.”MY body”…[Read more]