Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 18 2013,19:28)JULIUS CEASAR WAS A GOD TO THE ROMANSAnd Beelzebub (Satan) was the god of Ekron – even according to the words of Jehovah Himself.Angels and demons are also called gods in scripture. So perhaps it was these “lesser gods” to whom David referred in the psalm Pierre quoted.

I see a bunch of confusion, diversion, and wishful thinking in these posts.  I see people who say the Word is “related to”, or “concerns” Jesus; but they won't come out and say it IS Jesus because of selfish personal desires.  I see people claiming that literal words that God spoke, like “Let there be light”, actually became a flesh and blood h…[Read more]

Why are you saying my name?  What is it you want to know?Micah 5:2 is one of the many scriptures that speak of the pre-existence of Jesus Christ.  And not as a “used to be God but isn't God anymore” thing.  But as an individual, sentient BEING who had glory alongside God before the world began.Through Micah, God is telling how the one who WILL co…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 16 2013,18:12)Yes;Jesus created everything,but that was *before* He was made flesh.So Jesus WAS the very God who created all things when he was “the Word”, but then he became flesh and dwelled on earth – not with the glory of the God he USED TO BE – but with the glory of God's SON?   Wakeup, God alone created all things.…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 14 2013,12:28)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 13 2013,22:02)1.  Where are you seeing “demon” in that passage?2.  Isn't it logical that “the hosts of heaven” in that passage are God's angels?3.  Isn't it also logical that the “spirit” that came forth with the idea was one of those “hosts of heaven” that were discussing this matter wi…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 16 2013,05:53)Kerwin.You are making things up as you go.That is Kerwin's normal method of operation.Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 16 2013,05:53)Your statement is scriptural contradiction.And that is, more often than not, the result.  

Quote (942767 @ Oct. 14 2013,14:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 13 2013,12:31)1.  Are you telling me that the SAYINGS of God were both with God and were God in the beginning?  2.  Are you telling me that the SAYINGS of God actually became a flesh and blood man, who dwelled on earth with the glory of God's only begotten?  3.  Are you telling me that…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 16 2013,17:17)LOL!Even the Henotheist are at odds over Jesus being THE God.Satan was called “the god of this age” and “the god of Ekron”.I suppose, in your Trinitarian mind, that means he is also the very God he is the son of, huh?Keith, the “Trinity” is now dead on this forum. We've ran all you guys off with the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 14 2013,09:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 13 2013,03:30)No Gene.I reject your “answer” because it starts off with, “Jesus is not being called a GOD”.Yet the words say, But about the Son he says,“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever………“The Son” is definitely the one being called “O God” by Jehovah Himself i…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 16 2013,17:31)Hi KerwinIf we can stick to one thing at a time that would be great.You said that no-where in scripture are angels referred to as spirits.I gave you the scripture that says otherwise.You can see for yourself now that you have missed this verse, therefore your view was distorted on this particular matter, but…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 16 2013,13:20)Mike,Can you say that you believe that “the word was made flesh” means “A creature named the word was transformed into a human being”?I say that a spirit creature (the first one ever created) who has as one of his many titles, “The Word of God”, was transformed from a spirit being to a flesh being.And yes, all…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 16 2013,13:15)Mike,I believe you are trying to dodge a conversation you find uncomfortable.Then you don't know me very well yet, Kerwin. I don't “dodge” anything – because I don't even BELIEVE any doctrine unless I can scripturally PROVE it. There is nothing for me to “dodge”.Now, I've asked 9 very simple YES or NO…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 16 2013,13:03)Jesus assumed spirits cannot be touched nor can they eat……….It amazes me how Kerwin will just continue to teach this claim – as if there is scriptural proof of it. There isn't.Angels are spirit beings. They live in the spirit realm of heaven.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 16 2013,09:36)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 16 2013,11:39)It seems to me that many people here have the idea that these words God spoke actually went out and created things.  Like the words, “Let there be light” left out of God's mouth, and then went and created light for God.And the reason they come up with this kind of…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 15 2013,11:40)I do not think the AKJV has that correct as it seems to conflict with other passages that state Jesus was made in the likeness of a human.The only “conflict” is caused by your personal wishes, Kerwin. In reality, there is no conflict whatsoever between made in the likeness of a human” and partook in flesh.

Then God's Word is not actually “God”, right? And that means that the translation “and the Word was God” is flawed, right?

Quote (4Thomas @ Oct. 13 2013,18:27)Important NOte: the Son is not another Father, he doesn't in turn generate another Son, he is generated eternaly to reciperate Love back to the Father.But Daniel, it seems that all of your “Important Notes” are man-made doctrines – and not found in any scripture.Where in scripture can I read about the “eternal…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 13 2013,21:38)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 14 2013,03:35)He who creates is one, and he THROUGH WHOM the thing is created is another.Who is Tertullian?He was one of the “early church fathers”. But that's not important. What matters is the undeniable logic of those words he wrote.Many here want to credit the Word with the…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 13 2013,21:38)This is a very tricky question, and now I have to put on my real thinking cap!The scriptures say that the Word was God, and I believe this to be the correct translation.Did you know that the FACT of the matter, as concluded by Trinitarian and non-Trinitarian scholars alike, is that “and the Word was a god” is…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 13 2013,19:55)By the way Kerwin,My answer to Mike just now was my short version.oops!