Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 22 2013,02:48)You are in error in your word use.  Explicit is when it is written in the very words which is clearly not the case. From Dictionary.com:ex·plic·it   adjective  1. fully and clearly expressed or demonstrated; leaving nothing merely implied; unequivocal:I didn't see a definition that said, “exact words”.And the…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Oct. 22 2013,02:28)I ask you this:Is Mike's 'mind', and Mike's 'word', and Mike's 'spirit' other separate beings – or is Mike “one”?And I believe I answered it already with an analogy about going to the store.Would anyone ever say, “2B went to the market, and his word went WITH him.” ?

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 22 2013,12:53)Pierre,In a complex unity there can very well be those who serve the others! I know that the LORD means God Jehovah. Peter identifies the LORD of hosts that the LORD is referring to in Isaiah 8 as Jesus. The NT explains much about the OT.Funny you should mention Peter, who Jesus himself named “rock”.  Perhaps…[Read more]

Hi Gene,You didn't answer the question.

Wakeup,2 Chronicles 36:22 Young's Literal Translation And in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, at the completion of the word of Jehovah in the mouth of Jeremiah, hath Jehovah waked up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, and he causeth an intimation to pass over into all his kingdom……….Was God Himself inside the mouth of Jeremiah? Or…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 20 2013,18:25)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 17 2013,10:59)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 16 2013,09:36)Mike………God and His word are ONE and the same thing……..If that was really true, Gene, then it was Jehovah Himself who BECAME FLESH and dwelled on earth with the glory of God's only begotten Son.Mike……. Indeed it…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 21 2013,08:52)Angels have Bodies but Spirits do not have “Bodies” of any type.Angels ARE spirits, Gene.Who do you think Satan's “angels” are? (Matthew 25:41)Aren't they “demons” – which are “unclean SPIRITS”?Your problem has always been that you insist on understanding only ONE of the MANY meanings of “spirit” in the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 21 2013,17:28)Mike,I assume you do realize partook means shared?Yes Kerwin.Since the children were of flesh, the savior also had to partake of flesh (share our flesh nature).He existed in the form of God, emptied himself, and took on a much lesser form by sharing in our flesh nature.

Quote (2besee @ Oct. 21 2013,17:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 22 2013,11:38)Quote (2besee @ Oct. 20 2013,21:13)Mike,You consist of your mind, and your spirit, and your word, and your flesh. All of those things are a part of you. They are not something else.Man was made in God's IMAGE.The only thing different was the flesh body. Correct?So I could…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 21 2013,17:19)Mike,In the beginning God created both the heavens and the earth. There were no angels before the heavens were created.Kerwin,This is what I believe – as it is explicitly taught in scripture:The heavens and the earth were existing when God said, “Let there be light”. Angels were also existing at that time,…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Oct. 21 2013,12:46)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 21 2013,10:44)Quote (942767 @ Oct. 20 2013,17:22)Rev 19:13 …….and his name is called The Word of God.Marty, WHOSE name is called “The Word of God” in that verse?Hi Mike:Listen to this video, and pay close attention to what it means when a scripture such as this one states “his name…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 20 2013,23:11)There is nothing to say the angels were there before heaven and earth were created or before God said let there be light.Kerwin,Why? Why must you so consistently read what the scriptures say, and then believe the exact opposite? Are you saying that God created MOST OF the earth, then said, “Let there be…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Oct. 20 2013,21:13)Mike,You consist of your mind, and your spirit, and your word, and your flesh. All of those things are a part of you. They are not something else.So I could say, “WE are going to the store.”And someone could ask, “Who is the 'we' you're talking about?”  And I could answer them, “Me and my mind and my spirit and…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Oct. 20 2013,17:22)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 21 2013,09:38)Quote (942767 @ Oct. 20 2013,14:19)“Logos” by definition is not a person, but are the sayings of God which embody God's plan for humanity and reveal to humanity His Character.The same as in English, “word” is by definition not normally a person.  But if a spokesman is…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Oct. 20 2013,16:55)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 21 2013,11:47)Quote (2besee @ Oct. 20 2013,16:10)But you know what I believe, Mike. And I know what you believe.Who do you think the “US” is in Gen 1:26, 2B?  I wonder who Irenaeus thought the “US” was.God and his spirit, and his spoken word.Your use of the word “AND” tells us that the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 17 2013,11:44)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 17 2013,06:05)I've asked 9 very simple YES or NO questions.  If and when you list all nine, with a YES or NO answer beside each one, we will continue.(And by YES or NO, I do not prohibit further explanations as to WHY an answer was either YES or NO.  You can say as much as you want a…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 17 2013,11:32)So please tell me, if spirits can be touched and eat then how would both of those proofs have worked to convince the disciples that Jesus was not a spirit?Again, already answered, Kerwin………… LOTS of times.What Jesus actually taught: Spirits don't have flesh and bone.What Kerwin reads into Jesus' words:…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 17 2013,11:19)I point out that your insistence that you go by the literal interpretation of the statement “the word was made flesh” put you in conflict with a literal interpretation of the words ” Jesus came in the flesh”. Can you explain how your interpretations of those two passages are not in conflict?Already explained,…[Read more]

Hi journey,While I appreciate you explaining the same exact thing a second time, let me respond with what I said to Wakeup in the Matt 4:4 thread:Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 13 2013,10:07)Wakeup, Listen very carefully, and just DIRECTLY address my point, okay?  I don't need you to post the same huge “explanation” over and over.  I'm having a p…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 20 2013,09:52)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 17 2013,11:17)Is Jehovah a “Son”, Gene?  If not, then which “Son” do you think was intended?  In other words, about which “Son” is it said, “Your throne, O God, will last forever” ?Mike………God, the FATHER, was “IN” the Son. or don't you believe what Jesus said > “the Father w…[Read more]