Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 22 2013,20:27)God is our Father and Lord Jesus Christ like scripture teaches us, Mike.Kathi, which one of the following can most accurately be said about you:1.  The ONLY God of Jesus the ONLY God of Kathi.2.    The ONLY God of Jesus ONE OF THE Gods of Kathi.Please just list a number – 1 or 2.  Which is the one that mos…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 22 2013,20:25)Bump for Mike…Why are you having trouble answering this??No “trouble”, Kathi.  Just a lack of interest.Haven't I already showed you a few scriptures where it is clear that “Jehovah of hosts” is someone OTHER THAN the forthcoming Messiah?And haven't I already explained that sometimes Jehovah of hosts is the…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Oct. 23 2013,17:37)Mike,I can't answer your question because it's irrelevant.Can the Father also be the Father?? No 2B, the Father can't ALSO be the Father.When it says, “the Word was with God” – who exactly do you think that God is?  Don't you believe it is the Father God Almighty?I do.And if the Word was WITH the Father God…[Read more]

And Kerwin,Do me a favor and don't post to me at all until you're ready to begin ANSWERING the points I keep making.  I get tired of making these points, just for you to completely ignore them and keep talking about other things. Here is the point from my post to you yesterday:The point is that the earth was already there, formless and void, at…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 23 2013,16:44)I am fairly sure I used both correctly.Until you show me that “explicit” means “IN THE SAME EXACT WORDS”, please don't correct me about it, okay?  Because you're telling me I did something wrong…….. which I don't mind if I did in fact do something wrong.  But you're correcting me about things I was right a…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Oct. 23 2013,13:18)ALSO IN GENESIS 1:1 WHEN GOD CREATED HEAVEN AND EARTH, THE WHOLE UNIVERSE WAS IN COMPLETE PURE LIGHT, NOT IN DARKNESS LIKE YOU SAID, SINCE GOD HIMSELF IS THE MOST PURE LIGHT………I thought about bringing that up too, Charles.God dwells in unapproachable light. Apparently Kerwin thinks that God used to dwell…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 23 2013,10:46)2besee……….That is exactly what he is saying, i think our brother Mike need to visit a psychotherapist  and maybe a little couch chat would help.  Hmmmm…………..  Let's see, Gene:You just said the word “2besee” and the word “Mike”.  And your claim is that you actually ARE your word(s), rig…[Read more]

Quote (4Thomas @ Oct. 22 2013,18:23)Mike but if the Watch Tower taught for around 80 years that Jesus SHOULD *BE* Worshipped, and then NO-ONE can show me a single example before 1950 in any of there documentation that they taught Jesus should NOT be worshipped.1 Chronicles 29:20 King James Version And David said to all the congregation, Now bless…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 22 2013,05:11)1.  And the Word *WAS* God:2.  And the Word was *WITH GOD*:God brought forth his Word from inside God to outside,next to him,with a shape/formSo something that used to be God Almighty Himself became something other than God Almighty Himself, and sat next to the God Almighty that he used to be?That IS, after a…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 22 2013,18:40)we going to have patience for WAKEUP to answer our question, MikeI'm befuddled by journey's and Wakeup's hesitance to directly answer my simple questions.I asked them if “God” became “Not God”, and they won't just say YES or NO.  Instead, they keep explaining a million other unrelated things, or keep going…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 22 2013,17:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 21 2013,05:39)Like I've said, I don't require ONLY a YES or a NO.  You are free to explain your YES or NO in as many words as you like………………… AS LONG AS THE ANSWERS START WITH A “YES” OR A “NO”.Mike,Oops! Sorry, I thought you did require a yes or no.I do. I'm saying that…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 22 2013,17:16)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 21 2013,05:33)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 17 2013,11:19)I point out that your insistence that you go by the literal interpretation of the statement “the word was made flesh” put you in conflict with a literal interpretation of the words ” Jesus came in the flesh”. Can you explain how your…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 22 2013,13:48)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 22 2013,10:59)Gene,Did the Father God Almighty Himself become flesh and dwell on earth with the glory of His own only begotten Son?  YES or NO?No……….And yet the Word DID become flesh and dwell on earth with the glory of God's only begotten Son, right?

Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 22 2013,04:42)So it was inside him, and also next to him.  It went everywhere with him.Hi journey,I have never thought that Jesus was God – but thanks for the lesson anyway.  Look at the words you wrote in the quote box above, and then answer this simple question:If the Word was “inside God” and “next to God”, how could t…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 22 2013,06:16)You see the first proof when Jesus stated that spirits do not have flesh and blood though your interpretation of it is narrower than mine.  You miss the fact that the disciples still doubted him after that and that he then gave them a second proof that he was not a spirit.Kerwin,I haven't “missed the fact”.…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 21 2013,20:03)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 22 2013,11:06)Wakeup,2 Chronicles 36:22 Young's Literal Translation And in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, at the completion of the word of Jehovah in the mouth of Jeremiah, hath Jehovah waked up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, and he causeth an intimation to pass over into…[Read more]

You're half way there, Kerwin.  Now, add the fact that flesh can't enter or inherit the kingdom of God – something that Jesus clearly has done, since he is Lord over that kingdom.What does that tell us?  That YES, Jesus WAS raised from the dead as flesh.  But NO, Jesus can no longer consist of flesh.In Phil 3:21, Paul speaks of having his own lo…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Oct. 22 2013,17:42)So then Mike,You are saying that your thoughts, your word, your spirit, etc, are all other seperate people from you? Yes or No.NO, 2B.  They are POSSESSIONS of me.  They are not living entities who can be with me.  And they are not actually me.On the other hand, if I had a personal spokesperson called, The Wo…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Oct. 22 2013,09:53)Wow, Mike:You won't listen to instruction, and so, how are you ever going to understand the truth.Marty, I don't need complicated “instruction” for something so simple.  Here, let me use one of the scriptures you quoted to show you how simple it really is:John 12:46 I am come a light into the world, that…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 22 2013,17:07)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 23 2013,04:58)Quote (2besee @ Oct. 22 2013,02:28)I ask you this:Is Mike's 'mind', and Mike's 'word', and Mike's 'spirit' other separate beings – or is Mike “one”?And I believe I answered it already with an analogy about going to the store.Would anyone ever say, “2B went to the market, and…[Read more]