Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 27 2013,11:07)Wakeup,All angels are ministering spirits as the spirit they live by is one of ministering.Wakeup,Kerwin believes “angels are ministering spirits” means the same thing as “angels have ministering spirits”.You might as well run away now, because he will never relent.  

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 27 2013,10:43)Mike,Non-corporeal means they have no bodies. They are living creatures who are equivalent to ghosts.So then your FINAL answer is that SOME angels of God and Satan are truly spirit beings, while OTHER angels of God and Satan have this “spiritual flesh” thing you've made up. Have I put it accurately, according…[Read more]

I haven't followed this thread, but the answer to the question is “FALSE”. Jesus no longer consists of flesh, blood, or bone.

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 28 2013,17:22)MikeI wanted to point out to Marty ;that Christ is called THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD ;AND YET THEIR ARE MANY SONS OF GOD like it says in Job 1;6 and so I ask why would that claim be true ;THAT CHRIST IS THE ONLY SON OF GODYes,Jesus is definitely a son of God in a way that none other is a son of God. There…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 28 2013,01:42)THE GLORY OF THE FATHER IS THE GLORY OF THE FLESH??I saw a lot of back and forth after Wakeup made this fine point, but I didn't really see an ANSWER from Kerwin.Kerwin, is the glory of the Father a “flesh glory”? YES or NO?Also consider:Hebrews 1:3 The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact r…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 27 2013,00:05)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 27 2013,08:32)That could mean that the savior had to be originally created as a flesh being……… OR……… that this savior existed with a DIFFERENT nature, and then PARTOOK in the flesh nature.Either is possible.Mike,I mostly agree with you in regards to Hebrews 2:14…….So then…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 26 2013,23:47)Mike,Thomas made the demand to see the marks of the nails on Jesus' “hands” and thrust his hand on Jesus side in order to verify it was Jesus.  I have heard no reasonable grounds to believe otherwise.Kerwin,Your stance makes no sense to me. The point is that Thomas was saying he would not believe unless his own…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Oct. 28 2013,09:58)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 28 2013,04:09)  Okay Marty.  But did you notice that EVERYTHING said about “the Word” in John 1 is also said in scripture about “Jesus”?  Because that is what I thought you would see from my post.Marty, consider the last words of 1:14……. “full of grace and truth”.  Now consider the…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Oct. 28 2013,09:43)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 28 2013,10:45)martyQuote Job 1:6 is speaking about angels, not men who have been born again, and have the power to become the sons of God through Jesus.look at the HEBREW ORIGINAL it says ” SONS OF GOD” I believe the original Hebrew version ;KJVNow there was a day when the sons of God…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 27 2013,14:00) Quote (mikeboll @ 64)BUT THE EARTH REMAINED IN DARKNESS, DESPITE ALL THESE THINGS, UNTIL THE FOURTH DAY?There was no night and day on earth and no source of light I know of until the fourth night and day of creation.  God worked on the earth on both the second and third day but nothing except the primary…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 27 2013,12:50)Mike,You are speaking of John 1:1 and so the answer is that is was done to emphasize the word and its relationship to God.“Relationship to God”?So then the Word is someone OTHER THAN God who has a relationship WITH God, right?

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 27 2013,12:49)you could have said nothing and look wiser

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 27 2013,12:43)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 24 2013,08:19)Would anyone ever say, “2B went to the market, and his word went WITH him.” ?Mike,I already gave evidence it is done in English and possibly Koine Greek…………..I'm quite sure I've seen no “evidence” of a person going to the store and taking his word along with…[Read more]

 Okay Marty.  But did you notice that EVERYTHING said about “the Word” in John 1 is also said in scripture about “Jesus”?  Because that is what I thought you would see from my post.Marty, consider the last words of 1:14……. “full of grace and truth”.  Now consider the exact moment in John 1 where John stops calling this person “the Word” and…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 26 2013,21:17)1. For the english speaking would be the early translations.Not the latter.2. I find the kjv translation with no contradictions.3. The latter translations is not the better,but the worse.Mans curruption is not getting better,but worse and worse.1. That sounds like it makes perfect sense, Wakeup. But you're…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Oct. 26 2013,13:21)Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2013,04:51)Lucifer and his angels were also created in heaven.Lucifer is not made of flesh.(dust).Lucifer was a man (the king of Babylon).I'm not convinced there is any person with the proper name “Lucifer”………… man or spirit.

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 26 2013,12:44)Kangaroo Jack,Jesus probably did not have holes in his flesh though the Koine Greek does allow for that dramatic translation. It also also allows for the less dramatic translation of “onto the prints” and “onto his side”.And what would those translations mean, Kerwin?Did Thomas stick his hand INTO the side of…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 25 2013,16:18)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 22 2013,05:43)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 21 2013,17:28)Mike,I assume you do realize partook means shared?Yes Kerwin.Since the children were of flesh, the savior also had to partake of flesh (share our flesh nature).He existed in the form of God, emptied himself, and took on a much lesser form…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 26 2013,12:29)Hebrews 1:7   And of the angels he saith, **Who maketh his angels spirits**, and his ministers a flame of fire.Contradicting the scriptures for own gain,seems to be a normal thing to do.I know for sure that there is no dust in heaven.Nor glorified dust.For the earth itself is poluted and shall melt.So will be…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 26 2013,11:23)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 26 2013,22:52)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 24 2013,07:49)Kerwin,Please address this part of a recent post from me to you:And what about Judges 13:16, that they listed?  Does the fact that the angel who came to Manoah REFUSED to eat mean he WAS a “spirit”, and therefore NOT made of “spiritual…[Read more]