Quote (2besee @ Nov. 25 2013,18:50)I would like to quote a poster on another forum – but I will put them as 'original author unknown'.Quote “Most men try to discern with intellect (religion) what is only discernible by spirit.The book of Genesis tells us of a place called Babel and how God confounded the speech of man but still we (most) will try…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 25 2013,17:55)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 26 2013,08:46)Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 22 2013,02:47)Just some straight answers please:1.Who created darkness/night?Jehovah created both darkness/night.IS night “evil” for some reason?  YES or NO?Mike B.DARKNESS IN IT SELF IS NOT EVILOkay.  Then we'll eliminate #1 from your list, since it d…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 25 2013,21:48)Several times in the past two years I've said that John 1:1 could go either way grammatically, and that it's bias one way or the other that determines the translation.That's not exactly true, David.Yes, we can grammatically ADD the definite article “the”, making the translation say, “and the Word was God”.  (Take…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 25 2013,22:19)I'd actually like to comment on this but the two links, it doesn't seem like you are really discussing this topic in those threads any more.Those links take you to threads where I am teaching about the existence of many gods – just like the scriptures clearly taught me. After coming to believe that there do…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 25 2013,21:58)Finding someone who speaks ancient Coptic or koine Greek is impossible.Current Greek still doesn't use an indefinite article. And Greek speaking people understand that John 1:1 speaks of TWO gods – one of whom was WITH the other.

Quote (david @ Nov. 25 2013,21:54)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 26 2013,09:02)David, this stuff is related………It's really not related.  This topic isn't “the trinity” where you can discuss 1000 different scriptures.  Who's talking about the Trinity? Listen:Statement: The Coptic translation has “a god” in John 1:1c.Standard reply: It must be a f…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 26 2013,04:45)MikeB.Dont close your eyes because you will not see:FELL DOWN TO WORSHIP THE LAMB.  Wakeup,I've told you this before, but here goes again:There is not one scripture in the whole of the Bible that says anyone ever has, or ever will, “worship” Jesus Christ.But if you insist on the KJV's flawed translation of…[Read more]

Yes,Mike would honor the Servant OF God Almighty the same way whether he was born in 2000 BCE, 1885 AD, or somehow “existed” from eternity inside of the God who begot him.He would still deserve the honor of a great SERVANT of God – not the honor of the God he serves.

Also Kathi,You didn't address one of my questions. I wanted to know if “the Word of YHWH” was ever said in the targums to be WITH “YHWH”.In other words, did they ALWAYS change “YHWH” to “the Word of YHWH” – to the point that “YHWH Himself” is not even mentioned at all? Or are there scriptures where they clearly outline the fact that “YHWH” and…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 26 2013,08:49)Wakeup,Jesus and the Father are both inherently God.You and your son (if you have one) are both inherently human.See what I mean, Kathi? Your claim relies on “god” being a SPECIES, like “human” is a SPECIES.That claim opens up a whole can of worms, that might take a while to discuss.But to start it off, let's…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 26 2013,08:43)Mike,You confuse something He inherently is with something He does…………Kathi,Your whole post relies on believing that the word “God” describes a SPECIES – of which there are only two members.I agree that Jesus is inherently a “spirit being” like his and our one and only God.  But I don't believe he is…[Read more]

Kerwin,Could you re-post your information that showed a few verses where the KJV used the LXX instead of the MT? I can't seem to find that post.

Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 25 2013,16:43)Seems like I have wasted my time anyway, because no matter what I say or quote with whose name on it, you guys are refusing to really see what's going on and prefer to listen to those that drag the KJV through the mud.I don't think any of us started this by saying the KJV sucks – or “slinging it through the…[Read more]

Wakeup and journey,Are you ready to acknowledge that the KJV translated the Hebrew word “ra” as various other things besides “evil”? Will you acknowledge that it was merely their CHOICE to translate it as “evil” in Isaiah 45:7?Will you acknowledge that they could have translated it as “adversity” or “trouble” in Is 45:7 – like they did in other…[Read more]

So does adultery – yet it is specifically mentioned by God, right?Well, so is “being a temple prostitute”. Even though it might be similar to other sins that are mentioned, it is also specifically mentioned by God in scripture.Yet the KJV has no mention of it. They left out one of the specific sins that God warned us against…….. all because…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 22 2013,20:19)1.Why did John say and the Word *was* God?He didn't.  He was telling us about a god who was with THE god in the beginning – before he was made flesh.  “In the beginning, the Word was with God, and the Word was a god”.Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 22 2013,20:19)Crazy people think everybody else is mad, but he himself is s…[Read more]

That post isn't worth a response, Wakeup.  Of course God has sent messengers/spokesmen from heaven.  Of course God is able to send His only begotten Son from heaven to act as the sacrificial lamb to take away our sins.   And NO, no man is ever said to have “worshipped” Jesus, nor will any angel “worship” him in the future.You say that you wo…[Read more]

journey,Are you aware that parts of the KJV OT are translated from the LXX (Greek) instead of the MT (Hebrew)?

Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 24 2013,22:22)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 18 2013,03:49)Yes Kerwin.  This is one of the times I mentioned to journey in the “LXX” thread – where Jesus quoted the LXX version – and not the Hebrew version.The LXX version is as follows:Isaiah 61 LXX1 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me; he has sent me…[Read more]

I would still honor him as the Son, Servant, Prophet, Priest, Sacrificial Lamb, Spokesman, and Anointed One OF our one and only MOST HIGH God, Jehovah.So exactly the same way I honor him now. How long he has lived wouldn't change one of those things listed above.