Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 27 2013,05:03)The Word of God is a living being.And did this living being, who is NOT God, USED TO BE God? YES or NO?

Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 26 2013,21:09)You can argue all you like about the word “Ra”, and everytime I look it up I get the egyptian meaning.  Egyptian God, sun, shine etc.Try looking in a Hebrew lexicon,  journey.  Or just look at the second post on the previous page of this thread.I can't believe that you and Wakeup would rather PRETEND that th…[Read more]

I think it's like the current shows on television.   50 years ago, they were fairly clean.  But once the first guy “pushes the envelope” a little, it opens the door for those who follow to push it further.  So now showing explicit sex scenes, graphic murders, and very foul language is nothing for even commercial television. Similarly, once the fi…[Read more]

Devo,Will you and Wakeup PLEASE address Matthew 18:26 in the KJV for me? Will you explain how this master was “worshiped” by his servant?Was he “worshiped” as if he was God Almighty Himself? YES or NO?

Devo,Your post doesn't do one thing to refute the facts of the matter that I've addressed. The FACT is that we, and the translators who came before us, all have the CHOICE of rendering “shachah” and “proskuneo” as “worshiped” – or as “bowed down to”.Trinitarian translators CHOOSE to say Jesus was “worshiped” – when they could have said Jesus was…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 26 2013,23:26)Quote But it DOESN'T take bias to add an indefinite article where NEEDED – –mikeOff topic, but I don't think you understand what I said.And NO! This is NOT “off topic”.We are talking about “a god” in John 1:1c. Anything related to that, such as there existing many gods, is on topic.

Quote (david @ Nov. 26 2013,23:26)Quote But it DOESN'T take bias to add an indefinite article where NEEDED – –mikeOff topic, but I don't think you understand what I said. Of course it doesn't take bias to add the article where needed.  But that's the whole question isn't it?If you already believe in a trinity, it isn't needed…in fact, it must…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 28 2013,09:29)Kerwin……… I have hear what 2besee is saying before, and it does fit the Hebrew words for functional and dysfunctional  I believe. Interesting subject.peace and love to you and yours………………………..geneOh, so now that 2B has said what I've been saying for a month, you believe?  

Quote (2besee @ Nov. 27 2013,02:05)Mike, some simple tests:1.  Revised Standard Versionwho, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with Goda thing to be grasped,2.  Revised Standard VersionNo one has ever seen God; the only Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he has made him known3.  Revised Standard Version I form light an…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Nov. 26 2013,18:21)Mike,All of this discussion and debate will lead you to nowhere.They why are YOU on this site 2B, if not to “discuss” and “debate” the scriptures? What a shallow, shallow, shallow, claim to make. As if learning more about God and His written word through discussion and debate is an endeavor that will lead us…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 26 2013,20:55)If you cannot see that these scriptures are prophesying Jesus death, and it is actually him speaking in the psalm that David wrote, …and cannot connect especially the bolded Psalms to the NT, then you have missed out on something big.Of course I realize that Psalm 22 is a foreshadowing of the events…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 26 2013,08:45)Quote My next post will address the fact that he ALSO used the Greek translation of the Hebrew OT.OkIt's waiting there when you're ready. Also, take a hard look at the info Kerwin posted for us today.

Really 2B? That's it? I painstakingly explained WHY claims like “the Spirit must show it to you” are bunk. Why not refute my REASONS for saying what I did? Is it because you can't?

Answer all three questions with a YES or a NO, Wakeup.journey, I expect the same from you.THEN……….. ONCE YOU'VE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THESE FACTS…….. we can address all of those scriptures one at a time – and see if they do in fact support the claim that God “created evil”.But first, answer me so I know you understand those…

Yes. It was undoubtedly the power of God that caused the omission of temple prostitutes in the KJV to be CORRECTED – by allowing us to find older and better knowledge about that command He gave. So now we are able to know that money made from REGULAR prostitutes isn't allowed in the temple – and we are also able to know that TEMPLE prostitutes…[Read more]

But you believe that this thing that became flesh USED TO BE God Almighty Himself, right?And you believe that this thing that became flesh IS ONCE AGAIN God Almighty Himself, right? Because there is only “one throne” in heaven, right?

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 26 2013,04:03)You dont seem to mind contradicting scriptures.Hebrews 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, ***And let all the angels of God worship him***.Hebrews 1:6 NWTBut when he again brings his Firstborn into the inhabited earth, he says: “And let all God’s angels do obe…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 25 2013,22:11)For the poor in spirit 1 Chronicles 29:20 balances it out by giving a non religious meaning to worship as it declares he people worshiped both God and David.I just used that example earlier today for a post to Wakeup in a different thread.    We could also use Matthew 18:26, where a servant “worshiped” his lord -…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 26 2013,07:21)It is easy to cross reference with the KJV. The style is in God's lingo, his style of speech and we can identify it.Do you suppose God spoke Shakespearian English to Abraham, Samuel and Moses? journey, the KJV is just one of many English TRANSLATIONS of the Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek scriptures. It isn't…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 25 2013,21:15)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 26 2013,05:13)Kerwin,Could you re-post your information that showed a few verses where the KJV used the LXX instead of the MT?  I can't seem to find that post.Mike,Its from the Wikipedia entry for the King James Verson  in the OT section.Quote For their Old Testament, the translators u…[Read more]