Who are the these divine men then, Wakeup? What are their names, so that we can pay homage to them, like we do Jesus and the apostles and Moses?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 30 2013,11:01)A spirit without a body goes about in “ARID” places looking for “REST”.But you say spirits aren't cognizant beings, right?So why would these non-cognizant, non-being “thoughts that are in beings” go about SEEKING arid places and LOOKING FOR rest?Non-cognizant THINGS wouldn't have the awareness to SEEK…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 30 2013,11:52)Why should I put any man on a pedestal?You shouldn't. So why DO you do it with the MEN who produced the KJV – as if they, being mere men like us, were unable to make a mistake?

I answered him too, Kerwin. In fact, I answer his #1 in the other thread, asked him a subsequent question about whether or not “night/darkness” was “evil” – and he answered “NO”.So his point was null for #1, and then I answered his #2 and asked a subsequent question.I have not heard back from him about it since.

Thanks Kerwin.That sounds like it. I will research into it tomorrow.

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 30 2013,11:32)All translated from the kjv. are the true translations.Why did I say that? Because there are no contradictions found in the kjv,and I'm sure of this. Because I can't find any.  Wakeup, you aren't even able to detect the clear and blatant contradictions in these two statements that YOU made:1.  God and His Word i…[Read more]

Okay, moving on.  At about 11 minutes into the first segment, the lady mentions an OT verse that supposedly says, “His mind is kept in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on me.”I searched these words in the KJV, but couldn't find a match.  Could anyone tell me which verse she's talking about?And the last “problem translation” she mentiones in t…[Read more]

Really Wakeup?  Wasn't David also called “Lord” by people?  And Elijah?  And many others?Are you seriously saying that Jesus, as “Lord”, deserves the WORSHIP of men and angels, but these other “Lords” do not?   What is your basis for this conclusion?Quote As I always have said that God and His Word is one God.Oh, well that kind of explains you…[Read more]

Answer the question, Wakeup:Did this living being, who is NO LONGER God, USED TO BE God Himself? YES or NO?

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 29 2013,18:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 30 2013,06:37)Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 28 2013,18:09)Just as it goes with the movies;so it goes with the bible translations.Its not getting better,but worse and worse.Stick to the old kjv.wakeup.Yeah, and while we're at it,  we'll stick to the maps that show the earth as being flat,  and t…[Read more]

But what do you think about the FACTS journey has recently uncovered from the lexicons, Wakeup?Don't you admit that it's a little cool that we today can, with the click of a mouse, look at all the information about the Hebrew words that the KJV scholars had?  (Actually, we can today see even MORE information about those words than the KJV…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 29 2013,20:44)Wakeup,Where is it written that the flesh will turn into spirit?1Corinthians 1548 As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the heavenly man, so also are those who are of heaven. 49 And just as we have borne the image of the earthly man, so shall we bear the image of the heavenly…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 29 2013,17:58)Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 28 2013,17:52)BOWING DOWN TO A MAN KING IS SHOWING HONOUR.NOT WORSHIP. WE DONT PRAY TO A KING.Mike B.The apostles always knew and believed that Jesus is not God………Good. Now take the combination of both of the things YOU just said, and tell me if Jesus was WORSHIPED by the disciples.

Quote (2besee @ Nov. 30 2013,03:11)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 30 2013,05:29)God gave us the scriptures to TEST what the spirits tell us.  So don't believe anything “God” tells you in your dreams or prayers – unless it aligns with the scriptures.  If it doesn't, chances are that it wasn't really “God” telling you those things.Meant to say yes. It i…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Nov. 29 2013,22:32)Thanks.I believe it should be 'son'.'Only begotten God' does not seem right to me.Can you “picture” that? The “only begotten God sitting with the Father”?  I canNOT see that. It does not fit other scripture. “Only begotten son” fits other scriptures, and makes more sense. It can be “seen”.And I can see a later…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 29 2013,18:42)You are seeking understanding by your own precept.You mean like the mere men who translated the KJV?Tell me what is DIFFERENT about what they did in 1611, and what we are doing now.

Quote (jammin @ Nov. 30 2013,04:07)Philippians 2:6New Living Translation (NLT)6 Though he was God,    he did not think of equality with God    as something to cling to.Kerwin,Remember what I said in the other thread – that eventually Phil 2 will just say, “He was equal to God because he was God”?  jammin, what does it mean to be God, and stil…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 29 2013,18:15)Kerwin.John the babtist had the Holy spirit from birth.He knew the mystery;therefore he said:In the beginning was the Word and the Wordwas with God and the Word was God.The Word was made flesh,and dwelleth amongst men.wakeup.John the Baptist didn't write those words. The apostle John did.

Third post on page one, journey.

Read my earlier post in this thread, journey.  Look for the one with all the green print – and then read that green print.Oh, and remember that none of this “breast” and “mountain” talk is PROVEN. It is men making educated guesses based on information we currently have.