Hi Daniel,Long time, no talk.  Quote (4Thomas @ Dec. 04 2013,17:08)The Father is unbegotten………The Son is begotten……….Can you see the difference then?  Why would we never say the Father was begotten?  Because we all assert that the Father had no beginning.  What then, does it mean that the Son IS begotten?  I assume it means the exac…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 17 2013,15:18)This will take some time because I like to be thorough to make sure that people FULLY understand why I believe what I believe.Ed,Nobody was ever asking for a lengthy explanation of your doctrines.The facts of the matter is that YOU SAID Jesus did NOT say one of you is “a devil” – which DIRECTLY contradicts the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 17 2013,09:21)Kerwin……….Here is my take on what Jesus was telling the Thief on the Cross, I am telling you “THIS DAY” or “TODAY” , you “SHALL BE” with me, in Paradise. Jesus did not go to paradise that day………Really Gene? You understand it the same way I do?Hmmmmm…………… I wonder why I didn't get…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 17 2013,08:38)T,Humans are called gods in English as well as in Koine Greek and Hebrew.Show me the human that is called a god in either the Hebrew or Greek scriptures.

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 17 2013,08:33)I did point out that John 17:5 explicitly states it is Jesus' glory that is with God and not Jesus. It is another case where you adding words that not there. I'm not sure which Bible you've been reading, but the words are, “the glory I WAS HAVING with you before the world was”.It is JESUS talking……. not THE…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 16 2013,18:52)Mikeb.You dont seem to understand.I understand it just fine, Wakeup.There are indeed MANY gods and MANY lords, both in heaven and on earth. But we personally have as our God ONLY the Father.The fact that we personally only accept the Father as our personal God doesn't eliminate all those other gods. They still…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 16 2013,18:52)Instead of what is written it does not say “give me the glory I had when I was with you before the world began” even though you seem to think it does.“Instead of what is written it does not say……….” ? You write in a very cryptic way. And I say “cryptic” to be polite.Buy anyway, it DOES SAY the………..…[Read more]

Wakeup,On that post to journey, I've posted the Hebrew version of Isaiah 29:13.And I've posted the LXX version of Isaiah 29:13.Which one of those two versions did Jesus actually QUOTE in Mark 7:7?(Which one of those two versions have the words, “in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men” ? )The ANSWER, since I know…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 16 2013,17:54)Therefore: The kjv has the comma in the right place.I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.And was the thief in paradise with Jesus on Nisan 14th, 33 AD?If not, then Jesus lied…………. according to your comma.

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 16 2013,17:54)Mikeb.You have to go against common sense, and grammarto explain the nonsensical.At hand means, in your hand/soon,not millions of years in the future.Psalm 90:4A thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night.Psalm 90:3-5 (in Context) Psalm 90 (Whole Chapter) 2…[Read more]

The SCRIPTURES call those beings “el” and “theos”, Wakeup.  Those are the same Hebrew and Greek words used to describe Jehovah.Now, if the SCRIPTURES simply say “el”, who are YOU to say, “Well, they're not REALLY elohim, but are only thought to be elohim by men”?Nobody, that's who.Besides, Jehovah Himself calls them “elohim” MANY, MANY times in…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 14 2013,17:55)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 15 2013,10:29)Wakeup, The things you say sound an awful lot like you believe Jesus is God Almighty.Is that what you think?Mike b.Jesus is the Word of Godmade flesh.The Word of God is God's own Word.Still can not see?wakeup.My question is:Is Jesus GOD ALMIGHTY HIMSELF?  YES or NO?

Oh, and how does definition #2 work in Colossians 1:16, where it is said that all things were made THROUGH him AND FOR him?Should we change it to “FOR him and FOR him”?

Okay. Let's use your definition #2 for a second – just for argument's sake.In what way do you suppose the DINOSAURS were made for Jesus – since you believe Jesus never existed to see or enjoy them?

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 15 2013,19:56)Mikeit seems to me that many do not believe in the scriptures ,because they do not look for the truth of God ,only their own satisfaction because in their mind and heart they have already established that their is no truth in scriptures beside what they have accepted in it ,I'm confused by this entire thread,…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 15 2013,17:22)Mikeb.Happy hunting for precepts of men……….Wakeup,In the post to journey a page ago, which version of Isaiah did Jesus quote in Mark 7:7?The LXX version? Or the MT version?

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 15 2013,21:12)T,Maybe in the Hebrew language but we speak English and people are used to a god being one that is worshiped.And what about when loyal spirit sons of God are called gods in scripture, Kerwin? Is it with the intent that these angels are to be worshiped? Is there evidence of anyone ever worshipping Michael, or…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 15 2013,20:35)David,When speaking of being without flesh a certain person said they would be naked.Yeah Kerwin.That same person told us that God would NOT leave us naked in heaven, but would give us a heavenly tent to replace the earthly tent we lost.Hmmmm………….

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 15 2013,19:44)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 15 2013,00:57)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 13 2013,12:02)T,To be called a god is not necessary being a god.Why do you suppose Paul called Satan a god, Kerwin?Because he wasn't one?   And why did God foretell that Jesus would be called “mighty god”?  Because he wasn't going to be one?  Rest as…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 15 2013,09:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 15 2013,06:09)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 13 2013,16:55)Have you noticed how Mike avoids this scripture,  like the plague……..Gene,Who is the “Son” that is called “O God” in Hebrews 1:8?  Who are the gods Jehovah assembles with in Psalm 82?  Mike………Hear is your answers.  <…[Read more]