Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,23:21)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 17 2013,09:44)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 16 2013,13:25)My claim is that this further identifies the two powers of heaven.Well then, go back and read verse 12 again…….. because that verse further identifies that one is a SERVANT of God, and one is God, who deemed that SERVANT worthy to…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 18 2013,14:29)Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 19 2013,02:22)T.Has it gone that bad,that you need someone to explainthe word worship?wit is because of your twisted mind that I have to request this , so do not blame me ,I don't know if I'd go as far as saying “twisted mind”, but I agree with the gist of what Pierre is saying.If YOU…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 18 2013,09:54)…….he chose the complicated Hebrew and Greek so that it could be corrupted. His word is “holy” and he does not feed it to his enemies, but leaves them with the corrupted version so they cannot see.Once again you are correct.  The Hebrew and Greek texts HAVE BEEN corrupted by scribes throughout history.And…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 18 2013,09:51)Bath-Sheba did not worship king David, nor did she “fall down”..she didn't “stoop” or “crouch”,…. but she would of done whatever was required, and the word “reverence” gives us more detail that she was “greeting and approaching someone of high authority which happens to not only be a king”, but “a man highly f…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 18 2013,16:14)It is true that all things were created new by Jesus when he chose to sacrifice himself on the cross.Show me in scripture.  Also, show me from scripture the claim you made to jammin………. the one that says the new heaven and new earth have already been created by Jesus.

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 18 2013,16:14)There is no context to show that the original creation was created by him.Really?  How about the context where inspired writers of scripture explicitly say that ALL THINGS were created through Jesus – and they intentionally LEAVE OUT the word “NEW”?   My God, man!  Just because a NEW thing is taught about in on…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,20:28)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 18 2013,01:39)Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,17:34)Kerwin.1. The Word of God itself was made flesh.     God did not create a man and put his Word in him.2.This is why we must eat HIS flesh.   Eat the Word.Not eat the flesh of a created man,just   carrying the Word.3.The Word of God is ALM…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 17 2013,23:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 18 2013,05:15)I'm not sure which Bible you've been reading, but the words are, “the glory I WAS HAVING with you before the world was”.Mike,None of the translations say having.  The imperfect tense of the Greek word literally means “the glory I WAS HAVING“.  Most translate it as the past t…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 17 2013,23:18)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 18 2013,05:16)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 17 2013,08:38)T,Humans are called gods in English as well as in Koine Greek and Hebrew.Show me the human that is called a god in either the Hebrew or Greek scriptures.Mike,You do not believe Jesus so why would you believe me?Okay. Then just show me…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 17 2013,22:55)…….Cyrus who had a different kind glory, afforded him by God before he was ever born………I agree that Cyrus was foreordained for a future glory even before he was born.I disagree that Cyrus, once he turned 20 years old, could say to God, “Glorify me now with the glory I HAD WITH YOU a hundred years…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 17 2013,22:29)Mike……if you believe it that way , then I do believe you got it right. Sorry I didn't, see where you said that, or I would have agreed with you.I was just kidding with you about the atta boy, Gene. But yes, it seem that we understand that scripture the same way.

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 16 2013,19:09)Mike b>1.  What was BEFORE the LXX VERSION?2.  Was the lxx first?3.  Why are you so obsessed with the lxx?4.  just to proof  the kjvhas many words wrongly translated.1.  The Hebrew MT.2.  No. The LXX is the Greek translation OF the Hebrew MT.3.  I'm not.  I just thought it was strange for journey to start a…[Read more]

Kerwin,Give it up. Angels shouted for joy when God formed the earth. That means they already existed before that time.You can play word games with “laid the foundations of the earth” all you want, but nobody here is buying your word-game nonsense except for you.

Wakeup?  My last post to you?  No answer?Hmmmm…………….Are you and journey EVER going to acknowledge the FACT that it was the KJV scholars' CHOICE to translate the Hebrew word “ra” as “evil” in Isaiah 45:7?  And that they could have translated it as “affliction”, “adversity”, or “trouble”…….. instead of “evil”?  Since they do tra…[Read more]

Good post, Pierre.  You answered it pretty much like I was thinking to answer it.Wakeup, Pierre and I DON'T think Jesus is the Father God – and I don't know what in the world would lead you to make that claim.Nor do we believe we will be brothers AND sons to our “father” Jesus Christ, and grandsons to our Father Jehovah………. like you…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,04:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 12 2013,10:47)Lesson #1:  Do you accept the FACT that the Hebrew word “shachah”, and the Greek word “proskuneo”, both refer not only to “worship”, but also to non-worship acts of reverence towards people who are not God?  YES or NO?Mikeb.I only know the word WORSHIP.Well then, let me e…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 14 2013,13:25)Mike b.King david is not Jesus.Incase you dont know.I'm aware of that, Wakeup.But knowing that Jesus and David are different SERVANTS OF God doesn't really address the point that both Kerwin and I have now made.Please address the POINT.

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 17 2013,10:50)……they “worshiped” God and him so to does the David that is Jesus do.What freakin' language is that, Kerwin?  They all look like English words, but it's definitely not an English statement.  

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,08:39)Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,17:34)1. The Word of God itself was made flesh.     God did not create a man and put his Word in him.2.This is why we must eat HIS flesh.   Eat the Word.Not eat the flesh of a created man,just   carrying the Word.3.The Word of God is ALMIGHTY,This makes Jesus   ALMIGHTY.4. God…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 17 2013,08:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 17 2013,05:11)I'd have an easier time believing it if you could show me the word “anew” in Col 1:16, 1 Cor 8:6, or Heb 1:2.Mike,I get it from Revelations 21:5……………..Why?    What would a teaching about NEW things in Revelation or 2 Corinthians have to do with what's said in Col 1…[Read more]