Gene, I've read your posts. Let's start small:5.2 Kings 1:6This is what the Lord says: Is it because there is no God in Israel that you are sending messengers to consult Baal-Zebub, the god of Ekron? In this verse, Jehovah Himself calls Satan “the god of Ekron”. And since you are right, that there was no distinction between upper and lower case…[Read more]

My question (actually Pierre's question) concerns Jesus being the SON of God.  Was Jesus God's SON when he was the Word – before being made flesh?Was Jesus God's SON while this Word was on earth?Is Jesus God's SON now, after the Word has gone back to heaven and became “God” again?Read the claims YOU wrote, Wakeup.  And tell us where “SON of God” f…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 19 2013,22:50)Mike B.The word worship is the only right choice to make.Okay Wakeup. At least you are making an INFORMED decision, now that you know the facts about the Hebrew word “shachah”, and the Greek word “proskuneo”.I will disagree with you. I don't believe any disciple of Jesus magically knew he was God Almighty…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 20 2013,05:33)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 20 2013,12:08)Exactly Pierre.Wakeup is reluctantly learning these things in another thread……. which is why I won't bother to reply to his last post in this one.MikeB.THe whole host in heaven bowed diwn to worship God and the Lamb.Why would you seperate The Lamb from God,and only…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 20 2013,09:33)Mike………It is not “was having” it is, “I HAD” , just as Kerwin said .Well, hopefully you are smart enough to see how Kerwin was just proven wrong by the facts of the matter.It is very telling that you guys are both having a very hard time with the LITERAL translation of, “I WAS HAVING”, or, “I KEPT ON…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 19 2013,22:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 20 2013,06:40)Gene and Kerwin,Jesus said, “the glory I WAS HAVING“.Mike,I looked it up and the base word can be used to mean “having” as in Matthew 8:9 but none of the verses biblehub showed me it was used in the same form translated it “I am having”.    From NETNotes:The imperfect t…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 19 2013,22:15)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 20 2013,06:40)Gene and Kerwin,Jesus said, “the glory I WAS HAVING“.Those words will NEVER mean, “the glory YOU HAVE BEEN HOLDING FOR ME“, or, “the glory YOU HAVE AFFORDED ME“ – no matter how much you WANT them to.The bottom line is that Jesus himself WAS HAVING GLORY before the world…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 19 2013,22:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 20 2013,06:34)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 19 2013,12:00)Mike,He stated that those who received the word of God were called gods in Scripture.  The only ones I know that received the word of God were the children of Israel.Psalm 82 is about spirit beings, Kerwin……. not men.What sense would…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 20 2013,10:00)Now, poor old John was so stupid he didn't know he should have written the word Jesus there (a Person) instead of Just “word” (intelligent utterance), So along comes Jammin, and Mike, and other Trinitarians and Preexistence's and Just straighten out poor old stupid John's writings, to read as they say…[Read more]

Oh, and Kerwin has brought up another NT verse that is quoting the LXX.Hebrews 1:6 But when he again brings his Firstborn into the inhabited earth, he says: “And let all God’s angels do obeisance to him.”That is a quote from Deuteronomy 32:43. But you won't find those words in the MT version of 32:43…….. which is why they aren't in the KJV v…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 19 2013,22:01)Mike,I already pointed out to you that Psalms is speaking of Jehovah and the old creation.So is Col 1:16, 1 Cor 8:6, and Heb 1:2.You know how I know?  Because the God-inspired writer of these scriptures DIDN'T include the word “NEW” before the words “things” and “ages”.Kerwin, you have tricked yourself into…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 20 2013,07:28)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 20 2013,17:38)Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 20 2013,12:00)I hope All you guys here labour to be in Christ, not to be rabi scholars.wakeup.WOur interest is the truth ,the way that God REALY said it ,Matthew 11:29   Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 19 2013,21:43)Mike,Quote No.  The LXX is the Greek translation OF the Hebrew MT.Not exactly but your intent is correct.  The MT its origins in a group that that existed between the 7th and 10th Century.  According to the same Wikipedia article quotes the words 'by showing that there was indeed a Hebrew text-type on which th…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 20 2013,13:18)So angels were created at a time that is after the heaven and earth were created but before adam was created.Ay yi yi!The sons of God shouted for joy when the earth was created, Kerwin.Come on, now.  Stop fooling around.  You don't want anyone to eventually think you're SERIOUS about this, do you?

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 19 2013,23:21)My source is:Psalm 118:22Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)22 The stone which the builders refusedis become the head stone of the corner.The builders refused it then chose to use it later as a more important stone.So once again, you're willing to take a use of “cornerstone” from a DIFFERENT scripture, and…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 19 2013,23:02)I am taking it in chronological order though it seems to disagree at some points with the words in Job.  God chose to dress in light and then planted beam of his chambers in the waters of earth.  He then made the clouds his chariot and walks on wind.  After that he made the angels and then laid the foundation of…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 18 2013,19:40)wQuote That is true. There was no Jesus from heaven.Jesus was not made flesh,but the Word was.From Word to Jesus.From Jesus to Word.any scriptures ,i do not like old women storiesI too would like to see the scripture that prohibits the Son of God's name from being “Jesus” BEFORE Mary was told to name him…[Read more]

Bump for Wakeup…………Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 18 2013,17:00)Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,20:28)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 18 2013,01:39)Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,17:34)Kerwin.1. The Word of God itself was made flesh.     God did not create a man and put his Word in him.2.This is why we must eat HIS flesh.   Eat the Word.Not eat the flesh of…[Read more]

I think Wakeup missed the “Praise Jah” part of my post.  I think he thought I was praising the MEN and TECHNOLOGY that have given us the internet, etc.I think he now realizes that I gave the thanks and credit for these things to God.  

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 18 2013,21:47)Mike B.Take your pick:According to your spirit.Jesus died for you and you just give him honour?You have chosen the NWT. Because you refuse to worship the Word of God.synonyms:respect, homage, worship, adoration, reverence, veneration, respectfulness, honour, submission, deference More.wakeupWakeup,Do you at least…[Read more]