Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 07 2014,20:10)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 08 2014,12:29)Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 05 2014,21:36)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 06 2014,13:20)So…… explain to me whether Jesus is a being OTHER THAN God, or is Jesus actually a PART OF God Almighty?  Which one?If I only can project my word into a solid person like myself,but that would…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 08 2014,15:59)You are looking for evidence that supports your teaching that Jesus was before he was and Proverbs 8 does not supply it.Proverbs 8 is one of the over 50 places in scripture that “supply it”, Kerwin.  But you must have eyes to see…… eyes that are NOT self-inflicted with blinders.1 Corinthians 1:24but to those…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 08 2014,15:00)Mike,Yes, that is why I said spiritually he does not posses all nations.And Psalm 82:8 is the psalmist asking Jehovah to hurry up and get to the part where He DOES spiritually possess ALL nations.

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 08 2014,14:55)1) My chosen definition of the word assembly that applies to Psalms 82:1 are different than yours so I am going to insist God always stands in the assembly of the children of Israel and judges.Then that is your mistake to make, and you will have to adjust the scriptures accordingly to fit around that mistake.…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 08 2014,14:33)1.  God's word commands all things that are in heaven and on earth and so does Jesus.2.  God's word is a mediator between God and man and is Jesus.Please explain these claims, Kerwin.1.  Do you believe God's word is a living being in heaven who goes about making commands to other beings in heaven and on ea…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,12:57)When God's Word was made flesh(a human) His name is Jesus. But now, He is back as the Word of God.Wakeup, are you saying he is no longer Jesus?Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,12:57)You also believe that God died on the cross.Don't YOU also believe that, Wakeup?  Or do you believe the one who was crucified was…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,07:39)Jammin.Revelation 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.Revelation 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he **had** a name written, that no man **knew**, but he himself.HAD=PAST TENSE. KNEW=PAST TENSE.Past tense…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 05 2014,21:36)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 06 2014,13:20)So…… explain to me whether Jesus is a being OTHER THAN God, or is Jesus actually a PART OF God Almighty?  Which one?If I only can project my word into a solid person like myself,but that would not possible for us to do. Only in holograms maybe.Why don't you answer the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 06 2014,21:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 07 2014,08:52)The Word of the King of Abyssinia obeys the word of the King of Abyssinia. Can you spot the difference in meaning between “Word” and “word” in that last sentence?)Mike,Yes, I hear.Amen, and God bless.

Kerwin,1.  It IS a guess if the words actually say “FLESH    AND    BLOOD” – but they translate those words as “mortal body”.2.  You once again mention these “cases” where “flesh and blood” undeniably mean “mortal body”.  I've asked for one scripture in which that is the case.Please present that (first) scripture.3.  I AM taking the words at face…[Read more]

Also, are we agreed that “the Word” is something or someone OTHER THAN God Almighty the Father?

Kerwin,I'm not sure where that definition #3 came from, but I can't think of a single one of those things that is called “god” in any scripture.Certain members of His COUNCIL are called “YHWH” and “God” when they are representing Him, but I can't for the life of me think of any time those things you listed are addressed as “God”.Help me out with…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 07 2014,17:27)God paid the highest price for us. He didn't create a saviour on the spot and send him to die.If God did just create a savior on the spot, then Jesus didn't really “sacrifice” anything at all.  Instead, he won the greatest lottery of all time.Which of us wouldn't trade a day of suffering and the loss of a few…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 06 2014,10:05)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 06 2014,05:46)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 05 2014,08:56)Marty……….I have no problem with that , It is Jesus who is to have that “NAME” on Him. why because he will be “REPRESENTING” and “SPEAKING” GOD'S the FATHERS words to us.So why then can't Jesus be the one who “has that…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 06 2014,08:57)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 06 2014,05:46)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 05 2014,08:56)Marty……….I have no problem with that , It is Jesus who is to have that “NAME” on Him. why because he will be “REPRESENTING” and “SPEAKING” GOD'S the FATHERS words to us.So why then can't Jesus be the one who “has that name on…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 07 2014,15:15)Mike,About the phrase, “and fall like princes” in Psalms 82.  I believe the word “princes” can be translated angels.   I also believe is the children of Israel and not angels that are being told if they continue to disobey they will fall like the angels who disobeyed long before.  I do not believe angels that we…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 07 2014,14:55)Mike,God will judge the earth but he already posses all nations of earth in the physical sense. Spiritually he does not.Zechariah 8:23 This is what the Lord Almighty says: “In those days ten people from all languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say, ‘Let us go with you…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 07 2014,11:05)Anything else is breaking of the First commandment,  “YOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER GOD BESIDES ME”. Kerwin those are not my words, but the words of the LORD “YAHWEH” “OUR GOD”.That's right, Gene.  Those words came straight from Jehovah Himself.So what exactly did He mean by telling the Israelites that they s…[Read more]

Kerwin, We'll get to the rest of the stuff you wrote in the private thread.

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 06 2014,16:14)I think you have it to some point with your answer but in addition Jesus and the word of God both command angels and serve as a mediator between Jehovah and mankind.Yes, God's high-ranking SPOKESMAN can give commands to angels.  That is ONE use of the word “logos” – as the TITLE of God's main SPOKESMAN.As far as…[Read more]