Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 10 2014,10:49)Mike however does not understand the prophesies, so he is still a babe in Christ. No offence Mike, but you have admitted this yourself.I don't understand them according to WHOSE interpretation, journey? Yours? Pierre's? The expert scholar Gill? Or the 400 other expert scholars who all have their own…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 09 2014,22:21)j42Quote You cannot correct us through the GREEK.your first sentence means that if we find the very original in Greek language ;you would reject it because it is not the KJVThat's also how I understood your words, journey.Are you really saying that if we were to find the very original texts that were written…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 09 2014,21:58)So you will come back and say “answer the question journey, obeisance is worship, just giving honor”, and I will say no Mike, you really are allowed to worship Jesus………..Yes journey, I WILL come back and say “answer the question”. I will do that any time the other person DOESN'T actually answer the…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 09 2014,21:58)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 10 2014,12:06)Since Jesus was NOT God Almighty on earth, and since the Greek word “proskuneo” means “worshiped” AS WELL AS “did obeisance”, is it more sensible that the disciples, knowing Jesus was NOT God Almighty, “worshiped” him as if he was God?  Or that they “did obeisance (paid…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 11 2014,15:44)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2014,08:43)Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 08 2014,15:59)You are looking for evidence that supports your teaching that Jesus was before he was and Proverbs 8 does not supply it.Proverbs 8 is one of the over 50 places in scripture that “supply it”, Kerwin.  But you must have eyes to see………[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 11 2014,09:20)MIke …….I have a question for you, what does the actual “WORD” GOD mean to you? , I want your actual understanding of its definition, and what it implies to you.It means “mighty one”, Gene.And in scripture, it always refers to a mighty supernatural being. (In some cases, that “mighty supernatural…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 11 2014,01:08)There were many princes that fell at not just one.  It does not say you will fall like a certain one of the princes. Of the princes IN HEAVEN……….. which ONE of them fell, as far as we know?Also, isn't it implied:  “you will fall like one of the princes “?For example, if I tell you that “you will fall like G…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 08 2014,14:55)5)  The “arise” as used in Psalms 82:8 is equivalent to repent.Psalm 3:7 Arise, O LORD; save me, O my God: for thou hast smitten all mine enemies upon the cheek bone; thou hast broken the teeth of the ungodly.Hmmmm………… Sound familiar?

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 10 2014,14:03)I have not addressed the rest of your earlier post which I felt in part was you scrambling for justification for your choice of doctrine.Kerwin,Tell me the scenario where God could tell a HUMAN BEING to repent and stop sinning, OR he will die like a human being.Tell me the time in scripture where HUMAN BEINGS did…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 12 2014,12:15)When Jesus said “I exist” he was referring to himself?Of course.John 14:9 King James Version Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip?Do you see the words I bolded?  Do you know they are the same exact words that are in John 8:58?John 8:58 King James Version…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 12 2014,12:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 13 2014,04:13)Are you and Gene SERIOUSLY saying that you WOULDN'T spend a day being crucified in exchange for eternity at God's right hand?   You need to read these words from Jesus again:John 12:25He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 10 2014,13:32)Hi Mike:It was a piece of cake for him?Quote Luke 22:41 And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and kneeled down, and prayed,42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.43 And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 10 2014,10:35)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 10 2014,13:58)Gene, does the FACT that the King of Abyissinia's SPOKESMAN was called “The Word of the King” imply that the king's SPOKESMAN was in fact a literal spoken word or words from the king?   YES or NO?Mike….. NO The spokesman was not the LITERIAL word of the KING,…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 10 2014,10:32)But on the very hour when they came and shaved his head and started to take him to the chamber where the chair was , he pissed his pants, and had to have a guard on both sides of him to support him because he could not even walk, Not a single boastful word Just trembling and shaking and moaning. He was…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 10 2014,10:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 10 2014,14:19)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 09 2014,20:29)And, Jesus explained what he meant by stating that “'before Abraham was 'I Am'”……….What happens to your doctrine if you use the correct English translation, Marty.What happens if you realize that Jesus said, “Before Abraham was, I…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2014,04:03)Mike b.You are contradicting yourself.1.You say He is a spokesman.2.You believe he preexisted?3.You also believe he emptied Himself.4.WHO IS HE?5.But you dont believe He is the litteral Word  of God.6.  What do you really believe?1.  Yes.2.  Yes.3.  Yes.4.  Jesus.5.  Not in a million years.6.  Exactly what th…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2014,03:56)Mikeb.1.  Who is He that emptied Himself?2.  Is he the spokesman?3.  If so;what was he before?wakeup.1.  Jesus.2.  Yes.3.  He was non-existent until his and our God created him as the first of His works.

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2014,19:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 10 2014,12:25)Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,12:57)Jammin,You also believe that God died on the cross.Don't YOU also believe that, Wakeup?  Or do you believe the one who was crucified was someone OTHER THAN God?Which one do you believe?What is your other question?wakeup.Quick…….. look…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2014,19:53)And He **HAD** a name written that no man **KNEW**HAD/NOT HAS. KNEW/ NOT KNOW.That's right Wakeup. Let's say Jesus will ride on that white horse in the year 2459.And what John told us was that EVEN IN THE FUTURE YEAR OF 2459, no one knew the name.So how can you say we DO know that name in 2014, when even…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2014,20:21)I hope this answers the question.God and his Word is one. His name is Jesus, *WHEN* he was made a human being.Not at all, Wakeup. But don't worry about it. I'll get to the bottom of it with journey.