Pierre,You have lost me on this one. If God can tell the end from the beginning, then God must be able to FORESEE that end – in order to tell it to us, right?

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 21 2014,19:27)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2014,09:33)Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 21 2014,13:42)And God sends Michael to destroy the assyrians.How do you know that was Michael?Mike b.Micha'el is always the warior.Gabri'el is for God's messages.wakeup.Do you assume that God has only ONE “warrior angel”, and only ONE “messenger…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 22 2014,03:49)I do know that it is only in these last days God has spoke to his people through his Son. Hebrews 1:1-2 teaches us that.Possibly, Kerwin.But the wording of Hebrews 1:1 doesn't explicitly exclude Jesus from being one of the “various ways” God spoke to the people before Jesus came to earth.Consider:Hebrews 11 In…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 22 2014,03:23)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2014,04:26)The Hebrew idiom “see His face” refers to having a “one on one” with Him.  In other words, talking DIRECTLY to God.Mike,The phrase “see God's face” has more that just the literal meaning as you pointed out.  So why would you claim that only the literal one applies to M…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 21 2014,17:31)I was simply pointing out that you were wrong in what you said to another poster………….Show me.Quote the statement/claim I posted, and then show me how it is wrong.

I'm liking these private threads. I consider you to be an intelligent seeker of scriptural truths (most times), and I'm hopeful we'll get to the bottom of some things. I hear what you're saying, but tell me “why”? How could the body of Jesus be “apart from divine influence”, when he was fathered directly by God Himself?Sin entered the world…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 20 2014,19:15)All you KJV haters,doesn't this tell you something?I mean you hate it with all your soul.I've never met a “KJV hater” in my whole time on this site, journey.The people I've met fit into one of the following two categories:1.  People who think the KJV is perfect, and God-inspired, and that there is no fault in…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 21 2014,01:56)JW's need to say Jehovah because they don't really recognise Jesus, but we know that if we say the name Jesus Christ then we are going through the right channel.The JWs say the name “Jehovah” because our God and Creator GAVE us His personal name to use. And they actually use it.More and more English Bibles…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 21 2014,01:56)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)Why then do you think the disciples worshiped the creature Jesus Christ when he was on earth?Can you please quote where I said this?Your KJV says it, journey. The KJV has people WORSHIPPING Jesus even before he was raised to heaven and given the name above all names.In other words,…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 21 2014,13:42)And God sends Michael to destroy the assyrians.How do you know that was Michael?

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 21 2014,13:17)Of course we would not say “Mike” or anyone else “Came in the flesh” in everyday conversation………..Agreed. Thank you, 2B. But the truth is that we wouldn't use that phrase EVER concerning the earthly life of any regular human being.We would NEVER say, “Napoleon came in the flesh between 1769 and 1821.”The…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 21 2014,04:09)I am told that Mosses spoke face to face with God and yet never saw his face.  Exodus 33:11Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)11 And the Lord spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 20 2014,17:39)The whole message of the new testament is that the Son of God came in the flesh. Agreed, journey.  But these guys think that “came in the flesh” is a phrase that can be used for someone who has never been anything other than a flesh being.And I can't for the life of me imagine hearing, for example, “Abraham…[Read more]

Wakeup,1.  Good point.  I agree.2.  Good point.  I agree.3.  If in the beginning, there was ONLY God the Father, then EVERYTHING that exists today must have ultimately come out from the Father.  So I agree, but it doesn't make your point.4.  Jesus is in fact the firstborn of every creature and the beginning of the creation by God.  (Col 1:15, R…[Read more]

Kerwin,Are you ever going to answer my last questions in our private “Word” thread?

So then Jesus existed on earth with a body that was, “apart from divine influence, and therefore prone to sin and opposed to God”?Is that your claim?

Quote (sonofGod @ Jan. 19 2014,12:50) Quote (mikeboll @ 64)1.  Are you saying that if the angel Gabriel was changed into a human being, we couldn't sensibly say that he  “came in the flesh”?Reply to question 1:”What if the cow jumped over the moon?”Hypothetical, is truth hypothetical?Your question can indeed be answered, although you left it a l…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 20 2014,13:51)Like I said, it is a stupid question……….But you can't deny that it got you thinking, “Hmmmm…….. I guess it IS a little weird to think one person could have been created THROUGH another person who has yet to even exist.”You KNOW it would be ludicrous to say YOU were created THROUGH your own…[Read more]

Charles,Like I've told you over and over, I rarely get past the second or third sentence of your manifesto posts. So, keeping in line with that practice, I haven't used up my time reading this last huge post of yours.But like I told you before, IT DEPENDS ON THE CONTEXT.Now, if you want to list ONE scripture that has the word “wisdom” in it, I…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 18 2014,15:11)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 19 2014,00:41)Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 16 2014,21:04)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 17 2014,04:31)The follow up question is about Revelation 19:13.  In that verse, does the phrase “the Word of God” still just refer to an unnamed thing that is poetically being personified as a living being?Or does…[Read more]