Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 29 2014,14:04)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 28 2014,20:45)Okay Wm,I'll add a third possibility to it.1.  God foresaw and therefore knew without a doubt what the Israelites would soon do.2.  God used His power to CAUSE the Israelites to go against Him, so He could punish them severely.3.  God was using something akin to hu…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 29 2014,06:38)God being saddened by one of his creations does not mean he did not know that that creation would cause him pain at this or any other time.Agreed.Surely God was saddened to see His only begotten Son go through torture, pain, and death too.But that doesn't mean God didn't already know it was going to happen long…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 28 2014,21:28)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 29 2014,07:03)So are you saying that I would, WITHOUT A DOUBT, mess up and get fired by you?Are you 100% SURE of that?Mikeoff cause not…………Then it isn't the same at all, is it?In YOUR scenario, you must use the words, IF you mess up.God didn't say “IF” in that Deuteronomy…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 28 2014,19:46)Mike B.All what you have posted on HN; can anyone seperate that from you? As if it is not you; your self? But some other?wakeup.My spoken words are not “ME”, Wakeup.Now please answer the question I DID ask:Who is the “HIS”? And who is the “HE”? Are they the same being/person?

Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 29 2014,06:39)Hi MikeThanks for answering, but there's too many questions for me to answer right now in a jiffy.  I will get back to you as soon as I can here and there, as I have a few busy days ahead of me with family.Oh and I look very forward to comparing the NWT,  can't wait actually   I'm actually hoping you DON'T ad…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 29 2014,03:14)Revelation 1:11   Saying, ***I am Alpha and Omega, the                                        first and the last***: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Phi…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 28 2014,18:05)MikeQuote So YOU can't FORESEE that I WILL mess up.  On the other hand, God DID foresee that the Israelites WOULD mess up, and He already knew ahead of time exactly HOW they were going to mess up.it would take me a days of your work to see how good worker you are ; but that would not erase the idea that you…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 28 2014,03:02)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 27 2014,19:02)Deuteronomy 3116 And the LORD said to Moses: “You are going to rest with your ancestors, and these people will soon prostitute themselves to the foreign gods of the land they are entering. They will forsake me and break the covenant I made with them. 17 And in that d…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 28 2014,00:49) That is telling us that His Word is also HE.His Word belongs to no one else but to Him.All words spoken is through Him, the Word with a form.No man has heard God's own voice,but speaks through the being that is next to Him. The being He borought forth.Which is speaking God's words.This is where you lose me,…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 28 2014,09:00)If his body was not mortal then he would not have been able to die.I have never thought that Jesus' human body was immortal, and have therefore never made a claim that it was.What I'm saying is that the human body God created Adam with was “perfect” (not “immortal”). And it was a PERFECT man/body that sinned,…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 28 2014,10:03)#5 is a variation of what I believe but then so is 1. The situation with 1 is the Trinitarians take in to an extreme and I choose not to.It's not that the Trinitarians read, “and the Word was God”, and THEN made up their minds.The Trinitarians are the ones who translate 1:1c as, “and the Word was God” because…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 27 2014,19:27)until someone changes it,and makes it sound like organ pipe music playing out of key,along with clashing symbols crashing off beat,it will then sound like nothing but noise and eventually will give you a headacheSo why don't you talk in that language when you post here? Do you enjoy sounding like clashing…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 28 2014,17:03)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 29 2014,09:55)Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 27 2014,22:28)If I speak wrong I will correct myself also.I will announce my mistakes.YOU will correct YOURSELF?  Has anyone else ever been able to correct you?  Or are you the only one who can correct you?Mike b.If you can come up with a scripture or s…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Jan. 28 2014,14:34)THE ANGELS TO HAD INTERCOURSE WITH HUMANS, THEY DEFINITELY DESIRED TO DO SO, AND THROUGH THAT DESIRE, THEY SINNED, AND THROUGH SIN THEY BECAME HUMANS!NOW SINCE THESE ANGEL BECAME HUMANS THROUGH SIN, IT STANDS TO REASON THAT WE ARE HUMANS BECAUSE AT ONE STAGE WE WERE ALSO ANGELS AND SINNED!The angels themselves…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 27 2014,22:28)If I speak wrong I will correct myself also.I will announce my mistakes.YOU will correct YOURSELF? Has anyone else ever been able to correct you? Or are you the only one who can correct you?

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 28 2014,16:35)God as a plan and that's the plan that will be fulfilled he knows how,were,when,who,will be part of it ,How does God know those things ahead of time, Pierre?

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 27 2014,19:05)Mikeif I hire you for working and tell this is what I want and if you do not do it you be fired ;do I foresee the day you get fire Do you see that big word “IF”, Pierre?Read the Deuteronomy passage again, and show me the word “IF”.God did not say, “IF” you guys do this, then I'm going to do that.He said the…[Read more]

Wakeup,Last week you were applauding every word that came out of Charles' mouth.Not so much these days, huh?

Pierre,Is it your understanding that God knew the Israelites would soon prostitute themselves to the foreign gods of the land they were about to enter because God had decided to use His power to FORCE them to do so?YES or NO?

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 26 2014,17:07)Just the opposite as Jesus purpose was to redeem the body as well as the soul of mankind.And can a sinful body redeem sinful bodies?  What did Psalm 49 say?Also, if Jesus' body had to be sinful in order to redeem man's sinful bodies, then wouldn't Jesus' soul also have had to been sinful, to redeem our sinful…[Read more]