Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 03 2014,11:11)It did not come out as I imagine it will be.The above is carmel's quote,and the last part was my answer.Hope is not confusing.wakeup.Fixed.

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 02 2014,11:42)MikeB.John 1:3   All things were made *by him*; and without *him* was not any thing made that was made.  John 1:10   He was in the world, and the world was made *by him*, **and the world knew him not*.The world knew Him not.And you are one of them.The world was made by Him: before He was born??Who is He?? Ju…[Read more]

Wakeup, this is a private thread. Thanks for understanding.Gene, this is the FOURTH time I've asked you not to post in this thread.

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 02 2014,10:18)MikeB.You think you with your limited knowledge, can outsmart meto get me into a corner.The truth will always come on top.My only intention is that the truth come out on top.  But with answers like the ones you just gave, you don't need me to “outsmart you” – because you're doing a fine job all by yourself.Quote…[Read more]

Yes Wakeup,But it surely wasn't a case of Satan believing Jesus was the antichrist, and kissing him out of sincere love and loyalty – or whatever.I don't know where Charles comes up with most of the doctrines he preaches. Certainly not from any scriptures.

Kerwin,My point remains that Jesus wasn't exactly like everyone else who will be raised from the dead.  There were things about Jesus that were different from anyone else who is to follow him from death to life.Would you agree to that?

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 01 2014,14:02)God prepared a body for Adam by making it from the dust of the ground so don't you believe he can make a body the cell of a woman in preparing it for the Christ?I agree that God could have made that body for Jesus any way He wanted to make it, and by any means He wanted to use.But the bottom line is that God is…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 01 2014,14:24)Mike,You do know that Scripture states the word was made flesh. Any examples from Jesus' life would be after that point.Why would you say that last part?For example, you assume that God created all things through “the Word” BEFORE the Word became flesh, right?So when the same thing is said about “Jesus” in three…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 01 2014,10:19)God also knew that his son will be send 4000 years AHEAD OF TIME down to give up his live for us all……..Then you agree that God “FOREKNEW” these things 4000 years before they happened, right?

journey,Welcome aboard. 1. On rare occasions (John 1:1, John 1:14, 1 John 1:1, and Revelation 19:13), the phrase “The Word” refers to the title of God's main spokesman Jesus Christ. But don't confuse this title of God's spokesman with the literal “words” that God has spoken throughout history.In most cases, the phrase “the word of God” refers…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Feb. 01 2014,13:31)JESUS BEGUILED SATAN THAT JESUS WAS THE ANTICHRIST!So you think the kiss was a REAL kiss – given with warmth and love – because Satan/Judas was beguiled into thinking he was literally kissing his friend, the antichrist?I really don't know what to say, Charles. You are so far off into left field that you can't…[Read more]

Kerwin,All this is to make the point that Jesus was the exception to Paul's teaching in 1 Cor 15.He was never exactly like the rest of those to whom Paul gave that teaching, and therefore was an exception to that teaching.But we don't really need to go through all of this in order to support my claim, because the teaching is answering the…[Read more]

Wakeup,You are ignoring my points……… again.1. Jesus was called “out of Egypt”. So, is EVERYTHING that came “out of Egypt” the antichrist?2. I showed you that the older Greek mss, along with the earliest translations into Coptic, Latin, Ethiopian, etc. do not have “Alpha and Omega” in Revelation 1:11.Saying that you knew someone would say…[Read more]

Even in cloning and gene manipulation, which human being can live without having ultimately come from y AND x chromosomes? Whose y chromosome did Jesus' body have?  I find it hard to believe that you think all parts of Jesus were fathered by God……. EXCEPT FOR his body.Isn't it written, “A body YOU have prepared for me” ?I assume the “YOU” is…[Read more]

Quote 1.God's word are just words.Correct. A word is just a word. It is a thought that is spoken. God has spoken many words to us throughout history, sometimes with His own mouth, other times through angels, and other times through human prophets.But in the end, they are simply literal words.

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 01 2014,07:57)This is what Merriam-Webster says:Quote :  the divine wisdom manifest in the creation, government, and redemption of the world and often identified with the second person of the Trinity Google says:Quote the Word of God, or principle of divine reason and creative order, identified in the Gospel of John with the…[Read more]

Hi Marty,To me is seems self evident that God foreknows anything He wants to foreknow.There would be no such thing as a prophecy without foreknowledge of the future.  And we all know that the scriptures are loaded with prophesies.Pierre and Seeking Truth seem to think God doesn't “foreknow” these things, but is confident in His own power to bring…[Read more]

Wakeup,That list is a brilliant place to begin our private discussion. I will start the thread tomorrow, and begin with #1 on your list.

Kerwin,How was Mary able to produce a human body who had no father at all?

Okay, so you believe “the Word of God” is a LITERAL word that God spoke out of His mouth? Just one word? Or many words?