I didn't miss it, Pierre.I'm trying to show you that you're saying the EXACT SAME THING as the rest of us.Here are your words:IF ONE DOES NOT KNOW THEN HE CAN NOT GIVE FORESIGHT TO THE OTHERAnd now I'll change but one word from what you wrote, and end up saying the SAME EXACT THING:IF ONE DOES NOT KNOW FORESEE THEN HE CAN NOT GIVE FORESIGHT TO THE…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 08 2014,12:33)God speaks out His living Word and things are created.Wakeup,God alone creates things. In your mind, God says the word “elephant”, and that word itself becomes a living entity that goes around creating elephants.That is not the case.God might speak an elephant into existence by simply saying “Elephant” – but it…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 06 2014,20:30)MikeNice of you to joke, but someone has been hacking into my computer.Who said I was joking?  Sorry to hear about you being hacked.  For all the wonderful things the internet allows us to do, it is unfortunately also just another platform from which thieves and liars can rob us and do other evil d…[Read more]

Where is the direct answer to my question, Wakeup?Here are your two choices:1. The Word was ALREADY a living breathing being who was NOT actually God Himself BEFORE God brought him to the “outside”, or whatever.2. The Word BECAME a living breathing being who was NOT actually God Himself only AFTER God brought him to the “outside”.Which one?

Gene,I only want to know if the man who raped the little boy did so because of his own free will, or if God DESTINED him to rape that little boy.Which one?

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 08 2014,15:59)Mike,John also hoped to see Jesus as he is. He had previously seen him as he was.Kerwin,Not only do your two sentences contradict each other, but they blatantly contradict John's words in 1 John 3:2.In that verse, John made it clear that he didn't yet know what he would be, but only that he would be like…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 08 2014,17:34)Mike,Joshua is the Hebrew translation of Jesus and yet to say that Joshua let the people into the promised land does not mean Jesus did so.Kerwin,That statement is simply a diversion, and the kind of thing I was hoping I WOULDN'T have to deal with in this private thread.  (The reason I went private with you is…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 09 2014,10:07)T8……..And you on the other hand, believe you are Self righteous enough to Chose you own destiny , with or without God , You base your salvation of your Self…………Gene,Are you saying that God made the specific choice to have a certain person rape a little boy?Are you saying the man himself did not…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 08 2014,17:39)Not denying what you are saying here Mike, but there is another explanation too………..t8,The ONLY question I've been discussing with Pierre all this time is:Was God Himself able to FORESEE those future events that He showed to John in Revelation?What is your answer?

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 08 2014,11:25)Mike TO GIVE ONE FORESIGHT ONE AS TO KNOW ,And another way of wording EXACTLY what you have just said is:To enable one to FORESEE future events, one has to be able to FORESEE those future events himself.

Wakeup,Here is the first page of them.  Every time you see “LORD”, in all capital letters, it was really the divine NAME “Jehovah” in the Hebrew text. These the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, And every plant of the field before it was in the earth,…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 08 2014,12:50)Mike B.Fact: You can not come up with solid evidence,where the original scriptures has 7000 jhv's in it.You are just going by rumours.I knew you wouldn't actually answer the question, Wakeup.  I knew it because you NEVER do.  Instead, you try to divert the discussion away from any pertinent question someone e…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 06 2014,21:25)1.Are Gods Words alive or not? Y/N?Here is my answer to your ONE question:NO. God's literal spoken words are not literally living breathing things.Now it's your turn.Was “the Word” a living breathing being BEFORE God spoke it out of Himself? YES or NO?

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 08 2014,10:21)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)2. We don't yet know what JESUS is, because we have yet to see him as he is.Those John wrote to and us today just see Jesus as a thing we are to hope for. John also wanted to see Jesus in a similar way though he had seen him previously.John included himself in the statement, Kerwin.John,…[Read more]

Wakeup and journey,What is your end goal here?Is it your goal to say the NIV is ALSO a “perfect” translation, “inspired by God Himself”, because it also substitutes the divine NAME God gave us for Himself with the words “the LORD”?  Is it your goal to say that the Antioch mss have the divine name 6728 times, while the Egyptian mss only have the…[Read more]

According to the scholars, the Hebrew phrase “fear God” has more of a meaning of “revere God”.

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 06 2014,10:37)MikeB.You are selfish in thinking.Just becaue you happen to live in a rich country.What about those poor peasants living in the third world countries?  And what if those poor peasants are given the NIV, instead of the KJV? Would that also be God's way of providing His written word to those who can't afford a…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 07 2014,17:34)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 30 2014,10:23)So once again, it's not very hard to see what happened here.  These are our two choices:1.  A scribe ADDED those words at a much later date.2.  Someone WENT BACK IN TIME and ERASED those words from all of the older mss and translations.Obviously 2) Mike. Time travel because th…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 05 2014,17:27)mike Rev 1:1 The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, Rev 1:2 who testifies to everything he sawyes that is what he saw ,but the angel at to explain it of what it meansOkay, so mystery…[Read more]

Okay Wakeup,Last chance.I will ask you ONE question. And you can ask me ONE question.If you fail to ANSWER my question in a DIRECT manner, I will take it to the Hot Seat section. If you fail to answer it there, you will receive a tile.Here is that ONE question for you:Was “the Word” a living breathing being BEFORE God spoke it out of Himself? YES or NO?