Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 13 2014,06:32)There is no such as NEW OR OLD HOLY SPIRIT.I didn't even know how to answer that post, Wakeup.I like Charles, but many of his ideas come from somewhere other than the scriptures.

Quote (journey @ 12:35)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 13 2014,12:36)Which NAME is more important?  The God who created you?  Or His humble SERVANT Jesus Christ?God is in charge of course, but why would you want me to not acknowledge or say something to the effect that Christ had nothing to do with it?Are you anti-christ?  Christ is my Lord, he was se…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 11 2014,17:36)Revelation 5:13   And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, ***and unto the Lamb*** for ever and ever.***My glory will I…[Read more]

Copied from Kerwin's thread:Quote Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 13 2014,12:36)You two are funny for me.  You sit here DEFENDING the translation that took GOD'S name out of the Bible over 6500 times, but then bitch about the name of God's SERVANT being omitted just once!   That alone is a very suspicious statement Mike.Not only did I tell you that t…[Read more]

Hi journey,I copied your last post on this thread to our private thread, so we don't have to keep messing with Kerwin's thread.(Sorry Ker-dog)

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 12 2014,09:28)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 12 2014,03:54)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 11 2014,08:50)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)In that verse, John made it clear that he didn't yet know what he would be, but only that he would be like Jesus.That is not what it says.  Instead it says ” we will be has not yet been made known” or “and it is not…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 12 2014,09:08)I can say The apostles saw Jesus immortal flesh body but they did not know everything about it.  When Jesus comes again and they are like him they will know more.……….because they will then SEE HIM AS HE IS.That is WHY they will know more, because AT THAT TIME, they will, for the first time, be able to SEE…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 11 2014,21:44)God inspired the scriptures, and he also inspired the translation, so his Word would go out PRESERVED, unchanged, and exactly as he intended it.Yet we can see that even the older Greek COPIES are not exactly like the mss they were copied from.  We have evidence of scribal ADDITIONS and ALTERATIONS.There is…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 11 2014,21:37)NIV 19841 Timothy 2:12   I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.NIV 20111 Timothy 2:12    I do not permit a woman to teach or assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.Is Assume the same as “having authority”?I don't think so.journey,The 1984 NIV has:1 Ti…[Read more]

You two are funny for me.  You sit here DEFENDING the translation that took GOD'S name out of the Bible over 6500 times, but then bitch about the name of God's SERVANT being omitted just once!   Which NAME is more important?  The God who created you?  Or His humble SERVANT Jesus Christ?You guys are too blind to even see that the REASON the NAM…[Read more]

Gene,James 4:4Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.It is our CHOICE, Gene.  And we make those kinds of CHOICES by our own free will.In fact, the Greek word translated as “chooses” in the NIV above means:boulomai1) to will deliberately, have a purpose, be minded

Quote (Colter @ Feb. 10 2014,09:51)I agree with Bill Nye, God would have had to violate his on constants in physics like the speed of light from far distant stars.Like when God made the sun stand still in the sky in Joshua 10?If they are truly “his own constants in physics”, as you've said, then surely the Almighty Creator of those things is able…[Read more]

Also, would you please directly address my post from yesterday, and acknowledge for me that the phrase “word of God” in each of those scriptures I posted does NOT refer to a living breathing being?Thanks.

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 10 2014,17:41)Mike B.All that is contradicting God saying.***I WILL NOT GIVE MY GLORY TO ANOTHER***.A spokesman is another.1.  Where is it said in scripture that “the Word” has GOD'S glory?  Where is it said that “Jesus” has GOD'S glory?Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 10 2014,17:41)No man has heard the voice of God at anytime; Jesus s…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 11 2014,08:50)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)In that verse, John made it clear that he didn't yet know what he would be, but only that he would be like Jesus.That is not what it says.  Instead it says ” we will be has not yet been made known” or “and it is not yet made manifest what we shall be” or “and it has not appeared as yet what…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 11 2014,08:38)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 10 2014,06:40)Mike,Quote In that verse, John made it clear that he didn't yet know what he would be, but only that he would be like Jesus.So you believe Paul did know while John did not even though they both taught the gospel.Mile,You have failed to reasonably explain this dilemma in your…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 10 2014,21:48)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 11 2014,03:30)Are you saying a new spiritual flesh body is too brilliant to be seen by human eyes?  If so, how did they all see Jesus in his resurrection body?Mike,That is another discussion as I was using your words to demonstrate the error in your chosen explanation.  I do not even s…[Read more]

Ezekiel 1826 If a righteous person turns from their righteousness and commits sin, they will die for it; because of the sin they have committed they will die. 27 But if a wicked person turns away from the wickedness they have committed and does what is just and right, they will save their life. 28 Because they consider all the offenses they have…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 11 2014,14:59)Where did i say “we have no Choices”………..Hi Gene,Doesn't the fact that we DO have “choices” to make mean that we also have the “free will” to make whatever choice we want to make?

If “the Word” was not God Himself, and was not an entity other than God, then what was it?