Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 21 2014,12:08)Mike,Jesus personalizes wisdom as well as the word.  I believe that is the same as saying the aspect of being a person is added to the word………….Kerwin,You are talking in riddles – which would explain why Charles immediately grasped what you said.  Are you saying that the qualities of wisdom and God's w…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 21 2014,08:36)Jammin…….Kerwin is right, the word in Greek used there is ” ek-i'-mos” it's the same word for “IT” as well as He.Gene,The pronouns are written in the masculine form in the Greek language. That means “HE” instead of “IT”. (“IT” would have been written in the neuter form.)So you guys can argue that…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 21 2014,04:50)Mike,I believe God's Wisdom took on the attribute of being a person at the same time God's Word as you cannot have one without the other.You have yet to explain what “taking on the attribute of being a person” entails.Please explain what exactly that means before continuing to use that wording.

And what does “given the attribute of being a person” entail?Because it sounds like it means “BECOMING a person”.What exactly is “the attribute of being a person”? Wouldn't it include having a body, a soul, a spirit, legs, a brain, a heart, a will, etc. ?

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 20 2014,20:28)Mike B.Angels are created creatures.The Word of God is not created.Wakeup,If “The Word of God” DIDN'T used to be an individual living breathing being, but then BECAME an individual living breathing being, that individual living breathing being HAD A BEGINNING.And things that have existed from eternity do NOT have…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 21 2014,08:55)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 21 2014,11:18)My words are not “ME”.  They are my words.MIke………the word elephant, is not describing what a  “Word” “IS”, it is describing an animal,  Word are “INTELLIGENT UTTERANCES” they are not animals, they come forth from Spirits “IN” a PERSON> When you speak a WORD it…[Read more]

Kerwin,During the transfiguration, three disciples were given a glimpse of what Jesus is now like.  They weren't able to see all of his current glory, but were allowed to see a foreshadowing of his current glorious body.John 17:24 Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me…[Read more]

I agree with each of those commentaries, Kerwin.Gill goes on to say that at that time, we will be able to see Jesus………..….through those beams of light and glory darting from him, with which the saints will be irradiated; and this sight, as it is now exceeding desirable, will be unspeakably glorious, delightful, and ravishing, soul…[Read more]

I don't understand that “took on the attribute of being a person” thing.Did the Word actually BECOME Jesus Christ, or not?

I'm not sure how Wakeup understands that passage in John 6, but I know it doesn't say one thing about the bodies of the resurrected consisting of “the words of God”.Wakeup, what do you think verse 57 means?57 Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me.If we are able to…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Feb. 20 2014,10:43)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 21 2014,01:58)To All…….> The LORD our GOD and His words are ONE AND THE SAME, just as your words and you are, one and the same being. Not an OUNCE of Difference as concerning words, only you and I simple do not have HIS POWER, to bring about our words, like, God the Father does.…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 19 2014,17:50)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 19 2014,01:39)I pointed out your flaw in one because you believe Jesus is an angel and Scriptures attests angels were not created before everything else. Is this true Mike?Do you really believe Jesus is an angel?I KNOW Jesus is an angel of God, journey. I know it because the scriptures…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 19 2014,23:40)Mike,Wisdom was brought forth in the same way as the word even though God has always possessed it.Kerwin,Do you think literal wisdom is a living breathing entity, separate from God?If not, then it is not the same thing.

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 19 2014,19:21)Regarding Revelations, do you really think that Jesus will appear as a wooly lamb as in Rev 5? I'm sure that is off topic…just wondering.I think he will come with eyes of blazing fire – looking like someone you wouldn't want to cross.I understand that John was, in some cases, foreseeing SYMBOLIC references…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 19 2014,16:19)1.  Regarding that Mike. I know ahead of time, when my sons become teenagers, that at some point and to some degree they will depart the ways they have been taught when finding their own way in the world. 2.  I also think that even a man could have guessed that the Jews would come under the influence of other gods f…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 19 2014,19:28)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 20 2014,08:10)Hi Wakeup,Isaiah 45:7 KJVI form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.We all know that “darkness” is the opposite of “light”, right?But what is the opposite of “peace”?Here are four of the words the KJV uses as a…[Read more]

Hi Kathi,Sorry to hear about your mom.I take it that you choose choice #2 in Wm's poll?  God CAN know everything He wants to, but sometimes chooses NOT to know every little detail?Either way, it seems we all agree that God KNOWS what's going to be.  The tricky side-issue of this thread has been:1.  Does God know the future because He is going to…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 18 2014,21:29)Mike B.I believe that you exist,but I dont believe in what you thinkand what you say, stand for and do.wakeup.So you think I made up the fact that the Hebrew word “messiah” and the Greek word “christ” both mean “anointed one”……… and that there are many anointed ones mentioned in the scriptures?And I made up…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 18 2014,21:39)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 19 2014,11:39)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 17 2014,18:38)Of what *substance* will the resurrected be given a form/body.Those chosen to dwell in heaven will have bodies made of spirit and heavenly water, Wakeup.Mike B.My question was.Of what **subsuance** will one be given a spirit form?Out of…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 19 2014,09:53)Mike,Quote (mikeboll @ 64)And if this “Word” came forth from the mouth of God, then it was BROUGHT FORTH by God, Kerwin.  That means it wasn't always there, but BEGAN to be at the moment God brought it forth from Himself.God has always personified his word but other than that what you say sounds reasonable.…[Read more]