Quote (carmel @ Feb. 23 2014,01:10)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 23 2014,03:24)If “The Word of God” DIDN'T used to be an individual living breathing being, but then BECAME an individual living breathing being, that individual living breathing being HAD A BEGINNING.Mike, WHEN YOU LOOK AT GOD'S THINGS FROM A HUMAN SIDE POINT OF VIEW, YOU ARE RIGHTSo…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 22 2014,11:30)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 22 2014,23:19)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 22 2014,10:11)I am not sure where you get the idea from Scripture that Jesus' Transfiguring was a foreshadowing of the radiance that he would have.  During that event Jesus was still in his mortal body.Were Moses and Elijah also there in their mortal…[Read more]

Kerwin,It doesn't matter WHAT “glory” refers to in that passage.  What matters is that they wouldn't be able to see Jesus' REAL glory until they were in heaven with him.And THAT tells us that no one on earth was able to see Jesus' REAL glory.Also, the word “SEE” is a hint that this “glory” would be something eyes could BEHOLD. Jesus was talking…[Read more]

So when Jesus got appointed to that role that the Word formerly held, what happened to the Word? Was he fired? Was he destroyed?

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 22 2014,12:43)Mike,Quote And if the Word of God was personified as Christ AFTER Christ was flesh, what scriptural reason do you have to say the Word of God, through whom all things were created, was not being personified as the living breathing person Jesus Christ in John 1:1-3, BEFORE Jesus became flesh?“was” is the past…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 22 2014,12:34)Wisdom is mentioned in other chapters than chapter 8 of Proverbs and it is spoken of as a female.  Jesus is male.Kerwin, do you know the difference between “grammatical gender” and “physical gender”?  Whether or not the “wisdom” in Proverbs 8 was Jesus, it was NOT a physical female.  You do understand that, ri…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 22 2014,12:22)John 1:8 is speaking of the light and it teaches us the John does not have the attribute of the light but he bears witness to the one that does. Jesus is that one as Jesus later said “I am the light of the world” in John 9:5. It is the same pastern as used to show that love is an attribute of God.It can't be the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 22 2014,12:22)Mike.Quote Again, you are talking in riddles.  For one, love is never said to have BECOME God, where the Word IS said to have BECOME flesh.God has always been love but the word has not always been flesh.  Start again, Kerwin.Has love always been God? Put the words in the right order, and try again.

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 20 2014,21:14)The being next to God is given a form based on the Word of God. His basic substance(spirit) is God's own Word.Wakeup,The being NEXT TO God is not actually God Himself. He is not to receive our worship, nor is he our Creator. Nor is he physically made from words God spoke.t8, good post.

Quote (seekingtruth @ Feb. 21 2014,01:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 20 2014,19:58)t8,1.  There is no way you can KNOW that your sons will rebel.  For all we know, Christ could come tomorrow, and your sons won't even have that chance.  Or your sons might surprise you and become priests at age 17.  The best you can do is make an “educated GUESS” tha…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 20 2014,18:16)again even Solomon start with an “if” and so could foreseen their sins……..Pierre,I would never use a scripture that says, “IF you do this, I will do that” as a proof that God can foresee future events.So you posting scriptures where the word “IF” is used doesn't eliminate the scriptures where God foretold…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 22 2014,05:35)1.  Everything I have answered refutes your claims.2.  I agree that God is in charge, and Jesus under him, but God has glorified him, and therefore put him as numero uno.Your #2 actually contradicts your #1, journey.  Because my “claims” were designed to show you that, while Jesus deserves a great amount of pr…[Read more]

Wakeup's last two posts were absolute nonsense, that have nothing at all to do with any of the subjects we were discussing.  I'll take those posts as a surrender.

Quote (942767 @ Feb. 22 2014,07:57)Hi Gene:I chose to write just a simple response to you this morning, but I could have chosen not to because by efforts seem to be futile. But God did not force me to respond to you or not. The choice was mine all by myself.The scriptures that you posted are definitely correct, but the way that you understand is…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 20 2014,18:06)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 21 2014,10:30)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 19 2014,19:28)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 20 2014,08:10)Hi Wakeup,Isaiah 45:7 KJVI form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.We all know that “darkness” is the opposite of “light”, right?But what is…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 22 2014,11:19)After the word became flesh it is said that The word is flesh. Where?Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 22 2014,11:19)You acknowledge that God is love means love is an aspect of God so you should see that The word is flesh means flesh is an aspect of the word.  Given that the word was made flesh means that the word was made…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 22 2014,10:40)I don not see John 17:5 or 17:4 are talking about radiance either. Glory on its own is a rather vague term as it has multiple meanings.The point is that Jesus wanted them to be IN HEAVEN with him…………..SO……… they would be able to see him in his REAL glory.Why would they need to be with him in heaven…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 22 2014,10:11)I am not sure where you get the idea from Scripture that Jesus' Transfiguring was a foreshadowing of the radiance that he would have. During that event Jesus was still in his mortal body.Were Moses and Elijah also there in their mortal bodies? (Luke 9:30-31)Didn't Jesus appear to the disciples as glorious as…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 22 2014,10:40)Mike………So your Words are not a expression of yourself……….. Any on with half a brain can see a Persons words “ARE” a Representative of HIS MINDSee the word “OF”, Gene?Do you know what that word means?  I learned it at a very early age.  Have you not yet learned it?If my words are an expression <…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Feb. 22 2014,02:23)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 18 2014,09:06)Quote (Carmel @ 85)…….SATAN HAD THE RIGHT TO POSSESS ALL SOULS FROM BIRTH WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE SELECT DUE TO ADAM'S SIN………I have never heard such a thing, nor can I read anything about it in scriptureSo what's the point?  It's like we are speaking different…[Read more]