Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2014,13:18)Mike,So are you claiming a concrete thing can not become an aspect of an abstract thing. That claim lacks support.Okay Kerwin,But it's not for me to prove a negative. You'll have to prove the positive.Can you find an example of an abstract quality or attribute, like “love”, that has a concrete thing as IT'S own…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 23 2014,15:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2014,04:46)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 23 2014,11:10)Marty; are you still going to comment to my list of evilGod can do?I saw Marty comment on a couple of them – just like I did, Wakeup.Perhaps Marty is like me, and waiting for you to post ONE scripture at a time, so we can show you – ONE AT…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 23 2014,12:22)MikeJohn had vision of things that was to come………Pierre,That is simply another way of saying, “John was able to SEE future events.”And “SEEING FUTURE EVENTS” is called “FORESEEING”.John could not FORESEE those things unless the God who showed him those things could also FORESEE them.

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 22 2014,13:45)Mike,How does a blind man “see”?Don't divert, Kerwin. If you want to say that the English word “see” can also refer to “perceiving with one's mind”, then just say that.In the meantime, don't ask any questions until you've answered the one I keep asking and asking:What PURPOSE would it serve to show Jesus as a…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 22 2014,13:43)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 23 2014,01:32)Kerwin,It doesn't matter WHAT “glory” refers to in that passage.  What matters is that they wouldn't be able to see Jesus' REAL glory until they were in heaven with him.And THAT tells us that no one on earth was able to see Jesus' REAL glory.Also, the word “SEE” is a hint…[Read more]

So the original “Word” that God spoke out of His mouth – or whatever – ceased to exist altogether? And the human being Jesus Christ took it's former role?Is that what you're saying?Because if it is, it sounds like a tricky way of saying that the original Word actually BECAME the being of Jesus Christ.

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2014,11:04)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 23 2014,01:11)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 22 2014,12:22)John 1:8 is speaking of the light and it teaches us the John does not have the attribute of the light but he bears witness to the one that does.  Jesus is that one as Jesus later said “I am the light of the world” in John 9:5. It is the…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 23 2014,11:10)Marty; are you still going to comment to my list of evilGod can do?I saw Marty comment on a couple of them – just like I did, Wakeup.Perhaps Marty is like me, and waiting for you to post ONE scripture at a time, so we can show you – ONE AT A TIME – how not one of those scriptures say God created evil.Ready, set, GO!

Wakeup,Do you understand that last part of my post? Or not?Do you believe Jesus was the actual Father Jehovah Almighty while he was on earth? YES or NO?

Wakeup,If “the Word OF God” is NOT actually God Himself, then he is NOT our Creator, nor are we to worship him.

Pierre,None of the scriptures you have EVER posted on this subject CHANGE the fact that God told Moses what the Israelites would soon do – and He DIDN'T use the word “IF”.None of those scriptures change the fact that there is NO WAY John could have FORESEEN the events in Revelation unless the God who showed him those sights could also FORESEE…[Read more]

Will you answer the question I asked in the other post, Wakeup?Remember Wakeup, NONE of us has ever seen God Himself at any time. Jesus was NOT saying that he himself WAS the Father, and that the people looking at him were actually seeing the Father God Almighty.Do you understand that last part? YES or NO?

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 23 2014,11:21)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 23 2014,05:17)Wakeup's last two posts were absolute nonsense, that have nothing at all to do with any of the subjects we were discussing.  I'll take those posts as a surrender.Mike B.Who is speaking; saying that I spoke nonsense?Who is He?Has He got a name?wakeup.Let me ask YOU a…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 23 2014,10:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2014,03:22)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 22 2014,19:13)My question:*What was* made flesh and dwelleth amongst men?The first-created spirit Son of God, Jesus the Christ.This first spirit Son that God ever created was later caused to be born of a human woman, and dwelled on earth as the very Son…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 23 2014,03:58)I've been doing these pretty colours for two years now, like Pierre uses his stickers, same thing, and you pick on me now?Have you not noticed that I'VE been doing the same thing for FOUR years now?  I was COMPLIMENTING your use of colors, like I've done before.  I was not “picking on you” for using t…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 22 2014,20:00)Mike B.The words you are spouting out is not you.You have no word; some other mouth is speaking on your behalf. TRUE OR FALE?The first line is true.  My words are not actually me myself.The second part is false.  I speak my own words from my own mind and mouth.Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 22 2014,20:00)You are just you w…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 22 2014,19:13)My question:*What was* made flesh and dwelleth amongst men?The first-created spirit Son of God, Jesus the Christ.This first spirit Son that God ever created was later caused to be born of a human woman, and dwelled on earth as the very Son of God that he always had been.

Wakeup? Ready, set, GO?

Gene,Are you saying that if I am “influenced” by my rumbling stomach to eat some food, it was not of my “FREE will” that I ate the food, but of my “INFLUENCED will”?Because if that is what this is all about, I'd say you're being a little bit obstinate, and nit-picky.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 23 2014,09:08)Words can NEVER BECOME FLESH that is impossible……..You need to tell that to Wakeup and Kerwin.  They're the ones who believe a literal spoken word from the mouth of God became a flesh being.  I have never believed such nonsense.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 23 2014,09:08)Jesus plainly said what comes o…[Read more]